Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!
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@jon I think option 2 is correct. Despite the current forecast… the record still needs to be set, even if it’s longer than you expected it to be.
I was expecting you to get bahned somewhere, just not this early.
@moof Or *this badly*!
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@jon I think you need to assume the next train out will be the 07:40 departure tomorrow.
Norrtåg now confirms the overhead wire is torn down between Boden and the junction to Haparandabanan. Trafikverket estimates traffic resumes ”night to Wednesday”.
Shift everything 24 hours might be best if possible? If you’ll stick to the rules of no replacement bus.
@jon Trafikverket has now updated the estimated time when traffic will resume to 15:30. You need it to be fixed by 18:00 for your next possible train to run at 19:38 from Haparanda. So maybe that will work after all.
Still this only takes you arriving to Stockholm at 12:13 tomorrow by the night train. Then probably best to take the next night train with Snälltåget to arrive 05:05 in Hamburg on Thursday?
Ouff.
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon option 2 indeed seems more fun, since it leaves room for someone to improve the record
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@jon Trafikverket has now updated the estimated time when traffic will resume to 15:30. You need it to be fixed by 18:00 for your next possible train to run at 19:38 from Haparanda. So maybe that will work after all.
Still this only takes you arriving to Stockholm at 12:13 tomorrow by the night train. Then probably best to take the next night train with Snälltåget to arrive 05:05 in Hamburg on Thursday?
Ouff.
@stefanlindbohm Yes, I will at least take the Boden - Stockholm. What I do then... I will see.
The problem is Badajoz - Entroncamento, it runs only 2x a day, and in the afternoons!
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@stefanlindbohm Yes, I will at least take the Boden - Stockholm. What I do then... I will see.
The problem is Badajoz - Entroncamento, it runs only 2x a day, and in the afternoons!
@jon @stefanlindbohm So the result would be a 24h delay at Entroncamento if you arrive there after the afternoon trains have departed ?
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@jon @stefanlindbohm So the result would be a 24h delay at Entroncamento if you arrive there after the afternoon trains have departed ?
@Sobex i would be tempted to go back to Finland and start again i think
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@Sobex i would be tempted to go back to Finland and start again i think
@bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm if I knew *for sure* that the Haparanda - Boden would run tomorrow morning, maybe that is not the worst idea. But I don't know that for sure, so it is too risky!
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Can some Finn please explain this road sign seen in Kemijärvi earlier?
Is it "you will only hit elk on the roads in half of Finland"? Is there some elk wall across the middle of the country?
EDIT: OK, it's a reindeer herding area
But I have questions!
The antlers on that sign are wrong.
And given I was a LONG way into the area, why do I need the map?
@jon Just came across a southern version of the sign ("deer seen daily, drive carefully"). Swedish first because I‘m in the Swedish-speaking part of Finland atm.
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@bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm if I knew *for sure* that the Haparanda - Boden would run tomorrow morning, maybe that is not the worst idea. But I don't know that for sure, so it is too risky!
@jon @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm can you even get to Kemijärvi today anymore, since the morning sleepers have surely gone by now?
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@bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm if I knew *for sure* that the Haparanda - Boden would run tomorrow morning, maybe that is not the worst idea. But I don't know that for sure, so it is too risky!
@jon where's the risk? that they might run a train this evening but not tomorrow morning?
the option i see is 1) go back to the start in Finland and try again. 2) if Boden is cancelled again, change the rules and take the Ersatzverkehr
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@jon where's the risk? that they might run a train this evening but not tomorrow morning?
the option i see is 1) go back to the start in Finland and try again. 2) if Boden is cancelled again, change the rules and take the Ersatzverkehr
@bovine3dom Yes. But if I get more then 24h delay in Lagos I have other problems then in Portugal after the record breaking effort! @Sobex @stefanlindbohm
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon add me to the list of supporters for option 2. Power to you.
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@jon @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm can you even get to Kemijärvi today anymore, since the morning sleepers have surely gone by now?
@taavi @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm You can with a bus, probably.
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So I just called Norrtåg
There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus...
So how bad is this power line failure?
@jon I just left a meeting and haven't seen this chaos until now. @sebwilken @tml @stefanlindbohm
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@taavi @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm You can with a bus, probably.
@jon @taavi @bovine3dom @stefanlindbohm But that's against the rules of a rail journey record, right ?
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@jon @taavi @bovine3dom @stefanlindbohm But that's against the rules of a rail journey record, right ?
@Sobex the rules say nothing about the means of transport you need to use for strategic retreats
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@Sobex the rules say nothing about the means of transport you need to use for strategic retreats
@bovine3dom @Sobex @taavi @stefanlindbohm right. But as stated, I don’t know if it’d work!
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@bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm if I knew *for sure* that the Haparanda - Boden would run tomorrow morning, maybe that is not the worst idea. But I don't know that for sure, so it is too risky!
@jon Stats on the link below. I don’t think this page differentiates train not even scheduled from train cancelled (there have been track works this year that I assume explains many days not running), but despite some frequent delays it looks like at least outright cancellations are uncommon.
Since the cause was an overhead wire torn down by another train, it’s not specifically a systemic issue here.
I don’t dare making a judgement call though.
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Looks like the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* cancelled So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden
So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden to Stockholm - have reserved a (cancellable) bed on that in case it does work
@jon Swedish night trains work really well with Interrail, I‘ll give them that.
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@jon @nafmo @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Well, I guess if Trafikverket says they need the whole line Boden–Murjek for urgent maintenance, Norrtåg can not say "but we only need to use it for a couple of kilometres a couple of times per day pretty please!?" Ordnung muss sein! Safety First!
@tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Once upon a time, Haparandabanan had it's own exit from Boden. Things don't always improve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK6i7KZiE6s
