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  3. Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

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  • kimota94@mas.toK kimota94@mas.to

    @lisamelton I could be misremembering but didn’t we all originally think that “we are the algorithm” was how Facebook, Twitter, etc all worked? And then the stories started coming out about how the companies were “tweaking” that approach in order to “boost engagement”? In other words, isn’t Mastodon just finally giving us what we always wanted (and thought we had)?

    minmi@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #64

    @Kimota94 @lisamelton

    Original Facebook didn’t even have a feed. Just peoples pages. So you went to your specific friends page to see what they were up to. And you poked them, for some reason. I remember thinking the newsfeed was so creepy cause you saw what ppl were posting without seeking them out. Sweet sweet innocence.

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    • apbblue@thepit.socialA apbblue@thepit.social

      @lisamelton OK, if you remember, please NAME AND SHAME. 🤣

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      #65

      @APBBlue Will do! 🫡

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      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

        dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #66

        @lisamelton honestly I'd kind of like a choice of algorithms - not "whoever paid to be in front of my eyeballs" style "algorithm", but, for example, something that would foreground people I follow who don't post often and tend to get buried in the strict reverse chronological algorithm.

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        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

          Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

          Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

          Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

          We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

          Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

          norcalgma2@sfba.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #67

          @lisamelton
          You are right.

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          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

            Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

            Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

            Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

            We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

            Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

            anathema_device@bne.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #68

            @lisamelton What you said ❤️

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            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

              Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

              Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

              Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

              We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

              Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

              waynedixon@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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              #69

              @lisamelton if they want to create a mastodon client to do local AI for an algorithm, more power to them. I’m sure some people might like that, but it should absolutely be a choice, not the default.

              I’m guessing that they’ve basically ignored all of the stories about Big Social’s algorithms being manipulated just to keep you engaged.

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              • the5thcolumnist@ottawa.placeT the5thcolumnist@ottawa.place

                @lisamelton

                but the problem is nobody gets rich that way

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                #70

                @lisamelton@mastodon.social @the5thColumnist@ottawa.place

                They definitely won't be getting rich if nothing works and nobody wants what they offer

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                • kentpitman@climatejustice.socialK kentpitman@climatejustice.social

                  @shivvr @lisamelton

                  Welcome. In case it helps: You can subscribe to hash tags. This is how I've found interesting individuals. It gives some of the serendipity of The Algorithm without the agenda, since you'll see people you didn't originally know about.

                  After a while, maybe you unsubscribe from the hash tag. I haven't found the need, but the option is there. For example, you might want to rotate what you're listening to as you settle in, every few days or weeks, maybe to try one or a few hash tags at a time.

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                  #71

                  @kentpitman @lisamelton thanks! That is a helpful suggestion I hadn’t realized that

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                  • waynedixon@mastodon.socialW waynedixon@mastodon.social

                    @lisamelton if they want to create a mastodon client to do local AI for an algorithm, more power to them. I’m sure some people might like that, but it should absolutely be a choice, not the default.

                    I’m guessing that they’ve basically ignored all of the stories about Big Social’s algorithms being manipulated just to keep you engaged.

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                    #72

                    @waynedixon @lisamelton Concur

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                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                      gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #73

                      @lisamelton

                      I would actually like a big text field on lists where I can write some Lua function or something like that to control the list.

                      An algorithm that's fully under my control and not on the homepage would be pretty nice without any risk of falling into all of the traps of the big platforms (although whole new traps as I rabbithole into trying to make it just right for days)

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                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                        warnercrocker@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #74

                        @lisamelton Concur

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                        • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                          @the5thColumnist @lisamelton Define rich. 🙂

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                          #75

                          @CStamp @the5thColumnist @lisamelton define "problem" 😉

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                          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                            Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                            Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                            Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                            We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                            Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                            colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #76

                            @lisamelton I'm a pretty firm advocate for no AI use at our office. My simple line? "You are better than the AI." True here, too.

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                            • symtrkl@merping.synth.downloadS symtrkl@merping.synth.download

                              @lisamelton No, you re the algorithm, the rest of us just swim in the sea of Lisa boosts.

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                              #77

                              @SymTrkl @lisamelton
                              🤣 🤣 🤣

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                              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #78

                                @lisamelton
                                I often miss a really great post because the timeline is strictly chronological.

                                That is, I don't see it the first time around.

                                Then I *do* see it because one of the people I follow boosts it. The system works.

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                                • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

                                  @lisamelton
                                  I often miss a really great post because the timeline is strictly chronological.

                                  That is, I don't see it the first time around.

                                  Then I *do* see it because one of the people I follow boosts it. The system works.

                                  lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #79

                                  @negative12dollarbill Exactly! 💯

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                                  • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

                                    @lisamelton
                                    I often miss a really great post because the timeline is strictly chronological.

                                    That is, I don't see it the first time around.

                                    Then I *do* see it because one of the people I follow boosts it. The system works.

                                    mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #80

                                    @negative12dollarbill @lisamelton unsolicited advice: have you tried https://phanpy.social/ ? Its a different interface for your mastodon server and it has a very nice alternative feed you might appreciate.
                                    I am not associated, just discovered it myself in the last week. fyi. Ignore if irrelevant 🙂

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                                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                      sollat@masto.aiS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #81

                                      @lisamelton
                                      One of the (many) reasons I left twitter (both times) was because it was becoming harder and harder to set it to a chronological feed. I like my doomscrolling to be IN ORDER.

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                                      • colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network

                                        @lisamelton I'm a pretty firm advocate for no AI use at our office. My simple line? "You are better than the AI." True here, too.

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                                        #82
                                        My boss wrote all our stories in Claude. They were (and still are) unreadable. I took over writing all the newer stories. I don't mind using the random code generator for small things, but sweeping architecture agent coding just looks like we're creating a massive pile of technical debt on a new project.

                                        If whoever wants to write some slop-lm to filter the fedi firehouse, meh .. everyone can do what they want. I'll keep mine chronological. It's more fun that way.
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                                        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                          Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                          Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                          Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                          We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                          Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                          gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #83

                                          @lisamelton They should of course be free to program a server that offers an algorithmic feed if they want to. But keep that shit out of my server, i trust the fully human algorithm more!

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