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  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

    dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
    dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
    dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #66

    @lisamelton honestly I'd kind of like a choice of algorithms - not "whoever paid to be in front of my eyeballs" style "algorithm", but, for example, something that would foreground people I follow who don't post often and tend to get buried in the strict reverse chronological algorithm.

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    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

      norcalgma2@sfba.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
      norcalgma2@sfba.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
      norcalgma2@sfba.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #67

      @lisamelton
      You are right.

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      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

        anathema_device@bne.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        anathema_device@bne.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        anathema_device@bne.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #68

        @lisamelton What you said ❤️

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        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

          Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

          Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

          Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

          We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

          Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

          waynedixon@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
          waynedixon@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
          waynedixon@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #69

          @lisamelton if they want to create a mastodon client to do local AI for an algorithm, more power to them. I’m sure some people might like that, but it should absolutely be a choice, not the default.

          I’m guessing that they’ve basically ignored all of the stories about Big Social’s algorithms being manipulated just to keep you engaged.

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          • the5thcolumnist@ottawa.placeT the5thcolumnist@ottawa.place

            @lisamelton

            but the problem is nobody gets rich that way

            bussphomet@app.wafrn.netB This user is from outside of this forum
            bussphomet@app.wafrn.netB This user is from outside of this forum
            bussphomet@app.wafrn.net
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            #70

            @lisamelton@mastodon.social @the5thColumnist@ottawa.place

            They definitely won't be getting rich if nothing works and nobody wants what they offer

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            • kentpitman@climatejustice.socialK kentpitman@climatejustice.social

              @shivvr @lisamelton

              Welcome. In case it helps: You can subscribe to hash tags. This is how I've found interesting individuals. It gives some of the serendipity of The Algorithm without the agenda, since you'll see people you didn't originally know about.

              After a while, maybe you unsubscribe from the hash tag. I haven't found the need, but the option is there. For example, you might want to rotate what you're listening to as you settle in, every few days or weeks, maybe to try one or a few hash tags at a time.

              shivvr@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              shivvr@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              shivvr@mstdn.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #71

              @kentpitman @lisamelton thanks! That is a helpful suggestion I hadn’t realized that

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              • waynedixon@mastodon.socialW waynedixon@mastodon.social

                @lisamelton if they want to create a mastodon client to do local AI for an algorithm, more power to them. I’m sure some people might like that, but it should absolutely be a choice, not the default.

                I’m guessing that they’ve basically ignored all of the stories about Big Social’s algorithms being manipulated just to keep you engaged.

                warnercrocker@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                warnercrocker@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                warnercrocker@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #72

                @waynedixon @lisamelton Concur

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                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                  Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                  Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                  Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                  We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                  Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                  gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
                  gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
                  gbargoud@masto.nyc
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #73

                  @lisamelton

                  I would actually like a big text field on lists where I can write some Lua function or something like that to control the list.

                  An algorithm that's fully under my control and not on the homepage would be pretty nice without any risk of falling into all of the traps of the big platforms (although whole new traps as I rabbithole into trying to make it just right for days)

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                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                    warnercrocker@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                    warnercrocker@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                    warnercrocker@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #74

                    @lisamelton Concur

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                    • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                      @the5thColumnist @lisamelton Define rich. 🙂

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                      drchaos@sauropods.win
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #75

                      @CStamp @the5thColumnist @lisamelton define "problem" 😉

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                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                        colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
                        colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
                        colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #76

                        @lisamelton I'm a pretty firm advocate for no AI use at our office. My simple line? "You are better than the AI." True here, too.

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                        • symtrkl@merping.synth.downloadS symtrkl@merping.synth.download

                          @lisamelton No, you re the algorithm, the rest of us just swim in the sea of Lisa boosts.

                          pineywoozle@masto.aiP This user is from outside of this forum
                          pineywoozle@masto.aiP This user is from outside of this forum
                          pineywoozle@masto.ai
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #77

                          @SymTrkl @lisamelton
                          🤣 🤣 🤣

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                          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                            Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                            Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                            Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                            We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                            Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                            negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                            negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                            negative12dollarbill@techhub.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #78

                            @lisamelton
                            I often miss a really great post because the timeline is strictly chronological.

                            That is, I don't see it the first time around.

                            Then I *do* see it because one of the people I follow boosts it. The system works.

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                            • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

                              @lisamelton
                              I often miss a really great post because the timeline is strictly chronological.

                              That is, I don't see it the first time around.

                              Then I *do* see it because one of the people I follow boosts it. The system works.

                              lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                              lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                              lisamelton@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #79

                              @negative12dollarbill Exactly! 💯

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                              • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

                                @lisamelton
                                I often miss a really great post because the timeline is strictly chronological.

                                That is, I don't see it the first time around.

                                Then I *do* see it because one of the people I follow boosts it. The system works.

                                mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                mikebabcock@floss.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #80

                                @negative12dollarbill @lisamelton unsolicited advice: have you tried https://phanpy.social/ ? Its a different interface for your mastodon server and it has a very nice alternative feed you might appreciate.
                                I am not associated, just discovered it myself in the last week. fyi. Ignore if irrelevant 🙂

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                                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                  Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                  Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                  Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                  We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                  Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                  sollat@masto.aiS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  sollat@masto.aiS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  sollat@masto.ai
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #81

                                  @lisamelton
                                  One of the (many) reasons I left twitter (both times) was because it was becoming harder and harder to set it to a chronological feed. I like my doomscrolling to be IN ORDER.

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                                  • colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network

                                    @lisamelton I'm a pretty firm advocate for no AI use at our office. My simple line? "You are better than the AI." True here, too.

                                    djsumdog@djsumdog.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    djsumdog@djsumdog.com
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #82
                                    My boss wrote all our stories in Claude. They were (and still are) unreadable. I took over writing all the newer stories. I don't mind using the random code generator for small things, but sweeping architecture agent coding just looks like we're creating a massive pile of technical debt on a new project.

                                    If whoever wants to write some slop-lm to filter the fedi firehouse, meh .. everyone can do what they want. I'll keep mine chronological. It's more fun that way.
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                                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                      gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
                                      gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
                                      gimulnautti@mastodon.green
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #83

                                      @lisamelton They should of course be free to program a server that offers an algorithmic feed if they want to. But keep that shit out of my server, i trust the fully human algorithm more!

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                                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                        matroskin@techhub.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        matroskin@techhub.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #84

                                        @lisamelton
                                        Social media is vulnerable. It used to be run by various advertising and marketing specialists. Now AI has joined the fray. There is a battle being waged for people’s minds, for their opinions. Manipulation is everywhere.
                                        I long to go back to the old internet – cosy, old-fashioned, warm. But it’s gone, and it won’t be coming back.
                                        The fact that you refuse to use a particular tool makes you vulnerable to those who have no qualms about using it.

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                                        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                          Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                          Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                          Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                          We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                          Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

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                                          fxiz@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #85

                                          @lisamelton people can be so clueless yet so confident at the same time. Truly amusing.

                                          'jackhole techbro'? I rather be respectful to the tech people as a community than call them with demeaning names. I mean if things are so bad for me than I sure can go back to my good old letter posting. Has no algorithm, does not come from 'techbro', does not need algorithm, no ai, employees my local postman, etc. And yeah, "making friends".

                                          Everything is fine till it fits the propoganda, is it?

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