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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

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  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

    kimota94@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
    kimota94@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #60

    @lisamelton I could be misremembering but didn’t we all originally think that “we are the algorithm” was how Facebook, Twitter, etc all worked? And then the stories started coming out about how the companies were “tweaking” that approach in order to “boost engagement”? In other words, isn’t Mastodon just finally giving us what we always wanted (and thought we had)?

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    • kimota94@mas.toK kimota94@mas.to

      @lisamelton I could be misremembering but didn’t we all originally think that “we are the algorithm” was how Facebook, Twitter, etc all worked? And then the stories started coming out about how the companies were “tweaking” that approach in order to “boost engagement”? In other words, isn’t Mastodon just finally giving us what we always wanted (and thought we had)?

      lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
      lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #61

      @Kimota94 Yep!

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      • apbblue@thepit.socialA apbblue@thepit.social

        @lisamelton I want to know who this is so I can block him, lol

        lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
        lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #62

        @APBBlue I actually can't find the post anymore because I didn't fave it and I certainly didn't boost it. 🤦‍♀️😂

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        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

          @APBBlue I actually can't find the post anymore because I didn't fave it and I certainly didn't boost it. 🤦‍♀️😂

          apbblue@thepit.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
          apbblue@thepit.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #63

          @lisamelton OK, if you remember, please NAME AND SHAME. 🤣

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          • kimota94@mas.toK kimota94@mas.to

            @lisamelton I could be misremembering but didn’t we all originally think that “we are the algorithm” was how Facebook, Twitter, etc all worked? And then the stories started coming out about how the companies were “tweaking” that approach in order to “boost engagement”? In other words, isn’t Mastodon just finally giving us what we always wanted (and thought we had)?

            minmi@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            minmi@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #64

            @Kimota94 @lisamelton

            Original Facebook didn’t even have a feed. Just peoples pages. So you went to your specific friends page to see what they were up to. And you poked them, for some reason. I remember thinking the newsfeed was so creepy cause you saw what ppl were posting without seeking them out. Sweet sweet innocence.

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            • apbblue@thepit.socialA apbblue@thepit.social

              @lisamelton OK, if you remember, please NAME AND SHAME. 🤣

              lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
              lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #65

              @APBBlue Will do! 🫡

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              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
                dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
                dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org
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                #66

                @lisamelton honestly I'd kind of like a choice of algorithms - not "whoever paid to be in front of my eyeballs" style "algorithm", but, for example, something that would foreground people I follow who don't post often and tend to get buried in the strict reverse chronological algorithm.

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                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                  Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                  Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                  Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                  We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                  Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                  norcalgma2@sfba.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                  norcalgma2@sfba.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                  norcalgma2@sfba.social
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                  #67

                  @lisamelton
                  You are right.

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                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                    anathema_device@bne.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                    anathema_device@bne.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                    anathema_device@bne.social
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                    #68

                    @lisamelton What you said ❤️

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                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                      waynedixon@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                      waynedixon@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                      waynedixon@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #69

                      @lisamelton if they want to create a mastodon client to do local AI for an algorithm, more power to them. I’m sure some people might like that, but it should absolutely be a choice, not the default.

                      I’m guessing that they’ve basically ignored all of the stories about Big Social’s algorithms being manipulated just to keep you engaged.

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                      • the5thcolumnist@ottawa.placeT the5thcolumnist@ottawa.place

                        @lisamelton

                        but the problem is nobody gets rich that way

                        bussphomet@app.wafrn.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #70

                        @lisamelton@mastodon.social @the5thColumnist@ottawa.place

                        They definitely won't be getting rich if nothing works and nobody wants what they offer

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                        • kentpitman@climatejustice.socialK kentpitman@climatejustice.social

                          @shivvr @lisamelton

                          Welcome. In case it helps: You can subscribe to hash tags. This is how I've found interesting individuals. It gives some of the serendipity of The Algorithm without the agenda, since you'll see people you didn't originally know about.

                          After a while, maybe you unsubscribe from the hash tag. I haven't found the need, but the option is there. For example, you might want to rotate what you're listening to as you settle in, every few days or weeks, maybe to try one or a few hash tags at a time.

                          shivvr@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          shivvr@mstdn.social
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                          #71

                          @kentpitman @lisamelton thanks! That is a helpful suggestion I hadn’t realized that

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                          • waynedixon@mastodon.socialW waynedixon@mastodon.social

                            @lisamelton if they want to create a mastodon client to do local AI for an algorithm, more power to them. I’m sure some people might like that, but it should absolutely be a choice, not the default.

                            I’m guessing that they’ve basically ignored all of the stories about Big Social’s algorithms being manipulated just to keep you engaged.

                            warnercrocker@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            warnercrocker@mastodon.social
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                            #72

                            @waynedixon @lisamelton Concur

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                            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                              Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                              Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                              Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                              We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                              Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                              gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              gbargoud@masto.nyc
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                              #73

                              @lisamelton

                              I would actually like a big text field on lists where I can write some Lua function or something like that to control the list.

                              An algorithm that's fully under my control and not on the homepage would be pretty nice without any risk of falling into all of the traps of the big platforms (although whole new traps as I rabbithole into trying to make it just right for days)

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                              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                warnercrocker@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                                warnercrocker@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                                warnercrocker@mastodon.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #74

                                @lisamelton Concur

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                                • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                  @the5thColumnist @lisamelton Define rich. 🙂

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                                  drchaos@sauropods.win
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                                  #75

                                  @CStamp @the5thColumnist @lisamelton define "problem" 😉

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                                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                    colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network
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                                    #76

                                    @lisamelton I'm a pretty firm advocate for no AI use at our office. My simple line? "You are better than the AI." True here, too.

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                                    • symtrkl@merping.synth.downloadS symtrkl@merping.synth.download

                                      @lisamelton No, you re the algorithm, the rest of us just swim in the sea of Lisa boosts.

                                      pineywoozle@masto.aiP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      pineywoozle@masto.ai
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                                      #77

                                      @SymTrkl @lisamelton
                                      🤣 🤣 🤣

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                                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                        negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        negative12dollarbill@techhub.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #78

                                        @lisamelton
                                        I often miss a really great post because the timeline is strictly chronological.

                                        That is, I don't see it the first time around.

                                        Then I *do* see it because one of the people I follow boosts it. The system works.

                                        lisamelton@mastodon.socialL mikebabcock@floss.socialM 2 Replies Last reply
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                                        • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

                                          @lisamelton
                                          I often miss a really great post because the timeline is strictly chronological.

                                          That is, I don't see it the first time around.

                                          Then I *do* see it because one of the people I follow boosts it. The system works.

                                          lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          lisamelton@mastodon.social
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                                          #79

                                          @negative12dollarbill Exactly! 💯

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