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well... in my (unpopular) opinion, if are my data that are collected and used, I am the person who has the right to RECEIVE money.
RECEIVE money for data use, and not give money to avoid being tracked.
My data, my choice.@katttivizzima @noybeu I hope that unpopular, selling personal data should never under any circumstances be ok, it should not only be illegal but a crime.
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@katttivizzima @noybeu I hope that unpopular, selling personal data should never under any circumstances be ok, it should not only be illegal but a crime.
A crime?
Can you tell me under what circumstances choose to sell MY OWN web navigation data is a crime?
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A crime?
Can you tell me under what circumstances choose to sell MY OWN web navigation data is a crime?
What am I missing?@katttivizzima under all circumstances. The reason is that it impacts a Human Right the right to privacy.
It's very easy to convince someone who is in material need to sell things that they wouldn't otherwise sell and that will be detrimental to their rights, this is what despair does. Despaired people do this sort of thing often.
Selling private data erodes the environment for privacy for all, and is an attack on a Human Right.
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@katttivizzima under all circumstances. The reason is that it impacts a Human Right the right to privacy.
It's very easy to convince someone who is in material need to sell things that they wouldn't otherwise sell and that will be detrimental to their rights, this is what despair does. Despaired people do this sort of thing often.
Selling private data erodes the environment for privacy for all, and is an attack on a Human Right.
@katttivizzima Any private data transference should be done exclusively non-commercially and for the interest of the data subject, while informing, and ideally also while getting consent (except when there are other legal requirements such as a lawful legal investigation)...
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@katttivizzima under all circumstances. The reason is that it impacts a Human Right the right to privacy.
It's very easy to convince someone who is in material need to sell things that they wouldn't otherwise sell and that will be detrimental to their rights, this is what despair does. Despaired people do this sort of thing often.
Selling private data erodes the environment for privacy for all, and is an attack on a Human Right.
so you state that it is ILLEGAL for a human being to sell theyr own NAVIGATION data (and not personal data) but is OK to let the website and big tech grab them?
I'm a bit confused.
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so you state that it is ILLEGAL for a human being to sell theyr own NAVIGATION data (and not personal data) but is OK to let the website and big tech grab them?
I'm a bit confused.
Isn't it a privacy issue anyway?@katttivizzima I didn't stated it's illegal, let me quote what I said:
«I hope that unpopular, selling personal data should never under any circumstances be ok, it should not only be illegal but a crime.»
This means that I believe it should, not that it's.
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@katttivizzima I didn't stated it's illegal, let me quote what I said:
«I hope that unpopular, selling personal data should never under any circumstances be ok, it should not only be illegal but a crime.»
This means that I believe it should, not that it's.
@katttivizzima I never talked about navigation data, because, navigation data can be personal data, in the sense that it can be used to personally identify someone, either directly, or by associating that data with other data (this is what the Law defines as personal data).
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@katttivizzima Any private data transference should be done exclusively non-commercially and for the interest of the data subject, while informing, and ideally also while getting consent (except when there are other legal requirements such as a lawful legal investigation)...
Well, in the past weeks I had PrivacyBadger installed. And then I refused all the non technical cookie.
And you know what? I found up to more than 30 tracking cookie sent to my browser in some websites after REFUSING non essential cookies.
Our data are already on the market. The customer simply is the one who do not benefits and is profiled over and over.
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@katttivizzima I didn't stated it's illegal, let me quote what I said:
«I hope that unpopular, selling personal data should never under any circumstances be ok, it should not only be illegal but a crime.»
This means that I believe it should, not that it's.
Oh, thanks!
I see my fault! I never intended personal in that way, just navigation.
Thank you for pointing out my misspoke! -
Well, in the past weeks I had PrivacyBadger installed. And then I refused all the non technical cookie.
And you know what? I found up to more than 30 tracking cookie sent to my browser in some websites after REFUSING non essential cookies.
Our data are already on the market. The customer simply is the one who do not benefits and is profiled over and over.
My proposal is aimed to stop data selling, not to make money.@katttivizzima I don't accept that our data should be on the market, and if it is, it should stop being.
This is why I not only take multiple technical steps, but I also finance @noybeu, and I'm a member of other digital rights organizations that fight to protect our rights.
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Oh, thanks!
I see my fault! I never intended personal in that way, just navigation.
Thank you for pointing out my misspoke!I read again MY posts and... I NEVER talked about personal data, only NAVIGATION data.
I I did it right.
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I read again MY posts and... I NEVER talked about personal data, only NAVIGATION data.
I I did it right.@katttivizzima let me quote you:
« if are my data that are collected and used, I am the person»
Do you see how this can be interpreted as personal data?
Now let me quote myself about the definition of personal data:
«navigation data can be personal data, in the sense that it can be used to personally identify someone, either directly, or by associating that data with other data (this is what the Law defines as personal data)»
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@katttivizzima I don't accept that our data should be on the market, and if it is, it should stop being.
This is why I not only take multiple technical steps, but I also finance @noybeu, and I'm a member of other digital rights organizations that fight to protect our rights.
I agree, me neither.
That is why I write to many websites pointing out their fault (and in the most "dangerous" cases I activate Authorities).
An I use Privacy badger, so I limit big tech tracking, bu I think of others and act. -
@katttivizzima let me quote you:
« if are my data that are collected and used, I am the person»
Do you see how this can be interpreted as personal data?
Now let me quote myself about the definition of personal data:
«navigation data can be personal data, in the sense that it can be used to personally identify someone, either directly, or by associating that data with other data (this is what the Law defines as personal data)»
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@katttivizzima let me quote you:
« if are my data that are collected and used, I am the person»
Do you see how this can be interpreted as personal data?
Now let me quote myself about the definition of personal data:
«navigation data can be personal data, in the sense that it can be used to personally identify someone, either directly, or by associating that data with other data (this is what the Law defines as personal data)»
@katttivizzima data being about navigation, or fuel consumption, is not something that exists outside the classification of data as personal data, or non-personal data, it's just a different type/level of classification.
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Today, we have filed a joint complaint with Forbrukerrådet against the news publisher #Schibsted for implementing a “Pay or Okay” system across its products, setting a dangerous precedent for free consent across the Nordic countries.Learn more
https://noyb.eu/en/nordic-media-giant-schibsted-switches-pay-or-okay-complaint-filed@noybeu many Italian news sites adopted this for cookies
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Today, we have filed a joint complaint with Forbrukerrådet against the news publisher #Schibsted for implementing a “Pay or Okay” system across its products, setting a dangerous precedent for free consent across the Nordic countries.
Learn more
https://noyb.eu/en/nordic-media-giant-schibsted-switches-pay-or-okay-complaint-filednot everyone knows what "pay or ok" means and I shouldn't have to read to the second paragraph to find this out
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Today, we have filed a joint complaint with Forbrukerrådet against the news publisher #Schibsted for implementing a “Pay or Okay” system across its products, setting a dangerous precedent for free consent across the Nordic countries.
Learn more
https://noyb.eu/en/nordic-media-giant-schibsted-switches-pay-or-okay-complaint-filed@noybeu I see this, I wonder "What the hell is Pay or Okay?".
I click, I read.
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Today, we have filed a joint complaint with Forbrukerrådet against the news publisher #Schibsted for implementing a “Pay or Okay” system across its products, setting a dangerous precedent for free consent across the Nordic countries.
Learn more
https://noyb.eu/en/nordic-media-giant-schibsted-switches-pay-or-okay-complaint-filedGuess how much of that is reported in Bergens Tidende, one of the newspapers in the Schibsted concern.
Zero.
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