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“PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

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  • etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloudE etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

    @kauer@aus.social @blogdiva@mastodon.social somebody bought it to then have it pirated

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    #42

    @kauer@aus.social @blogdiva@mastodon.social I’m not advocating for nobody to purchase digital assets or pay the creators, simply that there isn’t a world where the piracy of those assets is wrong

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      #43

      @kauer @etsyy @blogdiva The creator doesn't get their reward now when people don't cheaply copy it, because middlemen squeeze them for everything, so I don't think that is particularly the problem.

      There are a wide variety of jobs that the cost of them is going to zero while the benefit they provide to society is incredibly high but hard to measure. This isn't unique to artists.

      It gets even worse when you consider the zipf distribution the rewards typically follow.

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      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

        “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

        don’t be a cop.

        If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

        If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

        SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

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        #44

        @blogdiva They're stealing our consumer rights so now we're _stealing_ their products!

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        • renardboy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #45

          @felipe We process lots of things

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          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

            “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

            don’t be a cop.

            If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

            If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

            SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

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            #46

            @blogdiva it's not piracy unless it comes from the "Piracy" region of France. Anything else is just sparkling sharing.

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            • theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #47

              @kauer @etsyy @blogdiva I mean I am saying that I think that a good number of people that pirate (I like the word /shrug) are picky about where their meager funds go.

              Like, if we are honest about this, there is no difference between downloading a song and listening to that song on youtube with an adblocker. Except that downloading it gives less power to google.

              I really don't think that anyone should feel particularly bad about pirating a taylor swift album is my point more or less.

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              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                don’t be a cop.

                If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

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                #48

                @blogdiva
                Ah, since I'm old enough to remember: you wouldn't download a car, would you?😄

                Piratebay, FTW!🏴‍☠️

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                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                  “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                  don’t be a cop.

                  If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                  If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                  SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

                  blackstag@ni.hil.istB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #49

                  @blogdiva Don't worry me bucko, dis gold be some I 'ave shared wit' the spanish fleet.

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                  • intransitivelie@beige.partyI intransitivelie@beige.party

                    @blogdiva
                    Yeah, but sailing the high seas sharing booty just doesn't sound as hardcore 😅

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                    #50

                    @intransitivelie @blogdiva It is if you're in an open relationship

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                    • theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.socialT theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social

                      @kauer @etsyy @blogdiva I mean I am saying that I think that a good number of people that pirate (I like the word /shrug) are picky about where their meager funds go.

                      Like, if we are honest about this, there is no difference between downloading a song and listening to that song on youtube with an adblocker. Except that downloading it gives less power to google.

                      I really don't think that anyone should feel particularly bad about pirating a taylor swift album is my point more or less.

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                      #51

                      @theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social @kauer@aus.social @blogdiva@mastodon.social I wouldn’t say it necessarily gives less power to google but rather returns more to you, but I’m being pedantic

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                      • mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM mast0d0nphan@beige.party

                        @intransitivelie @blogdiva It is if you're in an open relationship

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                        #52

                        @mast0d0nphan @blogdiva
                        I asked for that

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                        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                          “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                          don’t be a cop.

                          If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                          If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                          SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

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                          #53

                          @blogdiva Watching the wrangling in the thread, and wondering how many of its participants are using LLMs at home, on the web, or at work.

                          Cuz if you're using commercial LLMs, you're *already* a pirate, and it's a little late for moral outrage.

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                          • pezmico@mastodon.nzP pezmico@mastodon.nz

                            @blogdiva i wholeheartedly agree with you, but also I've always wanted to be a pirate and SHARING is probably my best chance to get anywhere close to that. 🏴‍☠️ 🦜

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                            #54

                            @pezmico @blogdiva

                            Arr matey, Sharing be Caring and all..

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                            • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                              @blogdiva “be gay, do pro-social activities regardless of the framing of the existing hierarchies” doesn’t roll off the tongue as well

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                              #55

                              @c0dec0dec0de @blogdiva I kinda want that on a t-shirt anyway 🤔💕

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