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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    Authenticity Problem

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    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

    sobex@social.sciences.reS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #24

    @davidrevoy Feels like a very personal one 🫂

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      Authenticity Problem

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      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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      #25

      @davidrevoy On one hand, we know AI in general has a bias for yellow because yellowish images have a higher tendency of getting marked as "good looking" because of the "golden hour" in photography.

      On the other, true, while AI hurts artists, due to that, even more for those who like yellow tones!

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        Authenticity Problem

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        naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #26

        @davidrevoy I love it so much! A lot of real human #artists and #creatives will find themselves in it.

        #humanmade #humanMadeArt #noAI

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        • brazmogu@mastodon.gamedev.placeB brazmogu@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @davidrevoy Ah, yes, one of the most frustraing consequences of this inflation of genAI bubble is how people are giving in to a tendency that anything slightly competent can only have been made by a computer

          People are getting a bit too complacent about being stupid as hell

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          #27
          @brazmogu @davidrevoy ...which is ironic, really.
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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            Authenticity Problem

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            calx@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #28

            @davidrevoy
            ayo, nice AI (Actually Interesting) art

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              Authenticity Problem

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              #29

              @davidrevoy

              But their is always souls in your work !

              The issue with other platform is that people expect ai stuff, they want to see ai stuff and it must look like ai. When they say "it's ai, right" it's not because they don't value your work but because they want to know that they can make a prompt and do the same.

              I could be completely wrong, but why stay on such places if they don't want ai crap ?

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

                I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

                This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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                #30

                @davidrevoy je ne me suis jamais posé la question parce que je connais ton travail depuis des années. Aucune idée de si je me la poserais si je le découvrais aujourd'hui 😕 Ceci dit, j'essaye toujours de faire bien gaffe avant de dire que quelque chose me semble fait par IA, et je mets les formes possibles quand j'ai un doute.

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  Authenticity Problem

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                  #31

                  @davidrevoy I hate that I myself sometimes see genuine art and have doubts that it's AI. I guess it makes me pay more attention to the artist behind the art I see which is good.

                  Now that "looking like good art" is something that AI can do, paying attention to what it's conveying and who's making it is more important than ever.

                  I'll take community over mindless consumption everytime

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                  • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
                    @davidrevoy based on a true story*
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                    #32

                    @stefan @davidrevoy I've seen an artist change their style towards an intentionally more scrappy and wacky one, and the timing suspiciously matched that of the visual slop models becoming widely available.

                    Said artist has been putting out incredible work for the past 15 years and all the AI slop tends to look a lot like their older art.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Authenticity Problem

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                      #33

                      @davidrevoy exactly the reason i despise all those youtube videos and such on how to "identify" AI art, every bloody time they just end up driving actual artists off the internet, while the slopsters don't give a damn about their callout posts

                      same with the em—dash

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                      • coffee@cafecreature.clubC coffee@cafecreature.club

                        @stefan @davidrevoy I've seen an artist change their style towards an intentionally more scrappy and wacky one, and the timing suspiciously matched that of the visual slop models becoming widely available.

                        Said artist has been putting out incredible work for the past 15 years and all the AI slop tends to look a lot like their older art.

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                        #34
                        @coffee Though obvs. you have to consider that AI likely stole their earlier work.
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                        • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #35
                          @friboquen @davidrevoy David sure has some of the best comics (more so the non-AI related ones) around. Mini Fantasy Theater is great
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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            Authenticity Problem

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                            #36

                            @davidrevoy Great work as always. Also, I'm in pain now.

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                            • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
                              @coffee Though obvs. you have to consider that AI likely stole their earlier work.
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                              #37

                              @stefan That's precisely what I mean. I posit that because AI stole all their work and now puts out very similar-looking slop, they probably got tired of being called out by morons online, and had to change their style out of desperation, simply to look more human.

                              I think it's going to affect a lot of professional artists: you simply can't draw well anymore without the fear of being mistaken for AI and having to fight the bullshit.

                              Hell, I'm learning to draw just to show AI a middle finger, and the comic I'm planning on releasing eventually will be done entirely with a pencil, a felt tip pen, and pastel charcoals in Concepts, and I'm going to keep the planning layer in the final works as the proof of humanity.

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                                #38

                                @davidrevoy
                                C'est sur aussi si tu ne met pas un certificat d'authenticité sans IA comment tu veux qu'on sache 😁

                                🤗

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                                  #39

                                  @davidrevoy <ugly crying>

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                                  • coffee@cafecreature.clubC coffee@cafecreature.club

                                    @stefan That's precisely what I mean. I posit that because AI stole all their work and now puts out very similar-looking slop, they probably got tired of being called out by morons online, and had to change their style out of desperation, simply to look more human.

                                    I think it's going to affect a lot of professional artists: you simply can't draw well anymore without the fear of being mistaken for AI and having to fight the bullshit.

                                    Hell, I'm learning to draw just to show AI a middle finger, and the comic I'm planning on releasing eventually will be done entirely with a pencil, a felt tip pen, and pastel charcoals in Concepts, and I'm going to keep the planning layer in the final works as the proof of humanity.

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                                    #40
                                    @coffee well said

                                    Also good luck and success on your artistic journey!

                                    Even when AI made things a little more miserable as a whole.

                                    You do see the effects very well by now as well, especially in crafts where people will feel like they need to post a video about the process of "how its made" in order to fight off slop-accusations. Though other arts are the same...

                                    It is kinda sad I always have to stop for a split second and ask myself if something can be enjoyed or its just.

                                    Its why I enjoy stuff like https://islieb.de/; (they are also on fedi but I don't wanted to drag them into here) or foxes in love (https://foxesinlove.net/) and of course David and all the other cool artsy people you can find on here
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                                    • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
                                      @coffee well said

                                      Also good luck and success on your artistic journey!

                                      Even when AI made things a little more miserable as a whole.

                                      You do see the effects very well by now as well, especially in crafts where people will feel like they need to post a video about the process of "how its made" in order to fight off slop-accusations. Though other arts are the same...

                                      It is kinda sad I always have to stop for a split second and ask myself if something can be enjoyed or its just.

                                      Its why I enjoy stuff like https://islieb.de/; (they are also on fedi but I don't wanted to drag them into here) or foxes in love (https://foxesinlove.net/) and of course David and all the other cool artsy people you can find on here
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                                      #41

                                      @stefan I appreciate the kind words!

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

                                        I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

                                        This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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                                        #42

                                        @davidrevoy always happy to support ai artists! (Please don't kill me that was a joke!)

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                                          #43

                                          @csolisr anyone that sees more than one of your works can tell is not ia because ia cant replicate the originality of it for so long

                                          edit: oh i didn't taged the op 😧

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