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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    Authenticity Problem

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    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

    realtegan@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #16

    @davidrevoy
    I've seen this happen to so many artists and writers now... I want to burn down every "AI" datacenter and make the tech bros live in the burnt out remains with nothing but the ashes of their computers to eat.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      Authenticity Problem

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      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

      aires@tiggi.esA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #17

      @davidrevoy
      Coworker: "You write like AI"
      Me, a writer: "Bitch"

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        Authenticity Problem

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        #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

        giltay@tenforward.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #18

        @davidrevoy Just this weekend I was at a show and thought some hand-painted bird pictures were AI, like maybe she used AI references. The beaks were just wrong.

        Still don't know if I was right or if I just mistook her style, and I hate that.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          Authenticity Problem

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          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

          brazmogu@mastodon.gamedev.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #19

          @davidrevoy Ah, yes, one of the most frustraing consequences of this inflation of genAI bubble is how people are giving in to a tendency that anything slightly competent can only have been made by a computer

          People are getting a bit too complacent about being stupid as hell

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

            I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

            This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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            #20

            @davidrevoy I mean I would HOPE people would need a real smoking gun to say that YOUR art is AI. I mean a lot of MFT is Anti-AI, so that would be random if it was made with AI.

            Either way it's usually better to question, but not accuse when it comes to AI I think. Unless it is very much egregiously AI than it's better not to just throw accusations.

            At least in this comic the vibe I get is just wanting to be a critic and not actually appreciating art though.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

              I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

              This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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              #21

              @davidrevoy Also I ran out of characters, but really good comic. Glad to see Cepper and Parrot again (Not that the other comics were bad of course I just like the Cepper and Parrot series).

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                Authenticity Problem

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                #22

                @davidrevoy
                Yeah, I made it with AI (Artistic Integrity).

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  Authenticity Problem

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                  #23

                  @davidrevoy uncannily, those panels look a lot like AI as well. nice work.

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    Authenticity Problem

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                    #24

                    @davidrevoy Feels like a very personal one 🫂

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Authenticity Problem

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                      #25

                      @davidrevoy On one hand, we know AI in general has a bias for yellow because yellowish images have a higher tendency of getting marked as "good looking" because of the "golden hour" in photography.

                      On the other, true, while AI hurts artists, due to that, even more for those who like yellow tones!

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        Authenticity Problem

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                        #26

                        @davidrevoy I love it so much! A lot of real human #artists and #creatives will find themselves in it.

                        #humanmade #humanMadeArt #noAI

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                        • brazmogu@mastodon.gamedev.placeB brazmogu@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @davidrevoy Ah, yes, one of the most frustraing consequences of this inflation of genAI bubble is how people are giving in to a tendency that anything slightly competent can only have been made by a computer

                          People are getting a bit too complacent about being stupid as hell

                          me@social.jlamothe.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #27
                          @brazmogu @davidrevoy ...which is ironic, really.
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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            Authenticity Problem

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                            #28

                            @davidrevoy
                            ayo, nice AI (Actually Interesting) art

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              Authenticity Problem

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                              #29

                              @davidrevoy

                              But their is always souls in your work !

                              The issue with other platform is that people expect ai stuff, they want to see ai stuff and it must look like ai. When they say "it's ai, right" it's not because they don't value your work but because they want to know that they can make a prompt and do the same.

                              I could be completely wrong, but why stay on such places if they don't want ai crap ?

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

                                I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

                                This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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                                #30

                                @davidrevoy je ne me suis jamais posé la question parce que je connais ton travail depuis des années. Aucune idée de si je me la poserais si je le découvrais aujourd'hui 😕 Ceci dit, j'essaye toujours de faire bien gaffe avant de dire que quelque chose me semble fait par IA, et je mets les formes possibles quand j'ai un doute.

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  Authenticity Problem

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                                  #31

                                  @davidrevoy I hate that I myself sometimes see genuine art and have doubts that it's AI. I guess it makes me pay more attention to the artist behind the art I see which is good.

                                  Now that "looking like good art" is something that AI can do, paying attention to what it's conveying and who's making it is more important than ever.

                                  I'll take community over mindless consumption everytime

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                                  • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
                                    @davidrevoy based on a true story*
                                    coffee@cafecreature.clubC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #32

                                    @stefan @davidrevoy I've seen an artist change their style towards an intentionally more scrappy and wacky one, and the timing suspiciously matched that of the visual slop models becoming widely available.

                                    Said artist has been putting out incredible work for the past 15 years and all the AI slop tends to look a lot like their older art.

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                                      #33

                                      @davidrevoy exactly the reason i despise all those youtube videos and such on how to "identify" AI art, every bloody time they just end up driving actual artists off the internet, while the slopsters don't give a damn about their callout posts

                                      same with the em—dash

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                                      • coffee@cafecreature.clubC coffee@cafecreature.club

                                        @stefan @davidrevoy I've seen an artist change their style towards an intentionally more scrappy and wacky one, and the timing suspiciously matched that of the visual slop models becoming widely available.

                                        Said artist has been putting out incredible work for the past 15 years and all the AI slop tends to look a lot like their older art.

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                                        #34
                                        @coffee Though obvs. you have to consider that AI likely stole their earlier work.
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                                          #35
                                          @friboquen @davidrevoy David sure has some of the best comics (more so the non-AI related ones) around. Mini Fantasy Theater is great
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