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  3. Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

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  • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

    @ifixcoinops @troublewithwords

    Isn't that lightning? High voltage and minimal amperage?

    Last I heard, lightning was dangerous...

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    #12

    @Uair @ifixcoinops @troublewithwords

    Data centres use both high voltage *and* high current, often 800V DC. this has all sorts of "interesting" differences with regard to arcing compared to AC, and is then converted to 48V for the racks at high current (so still a risk of arcing *and* fires)

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    • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

      Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

      I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

      * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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      #13

      @troublewithwords

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      • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

        Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

        I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

        * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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        #14

        @troublewithwords There are big differences between terminating low voltage (480, 600V) and medium voltage (4160V, 7200V, 13.8kV) cables. Low voltage you strip back insulation and land, maybe connect a crimped on connector. Still requires being skilled and knowledgeable.

        With medium and high voltage, there are a number of additional steps required to terminate. Stuff likes cable shields, semiconducting (as in isn’t totally an insulator) layers, building up insulating stress cones, understanding why you need to do stuff certain ways, things like that.

        That’s just looking at the most boots-on-the-ground stuff.

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        • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

          @Uair @ifixcoinops @troublewithwords

          Data centres use both high voltage *and* high current, often 800V DC. this has all sorts of "interesting" differences with regard to arcing compared to AC, and is then converted to 48V for the racks at high current (so still a risk of arcing *and* fires)

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          #15

          @vfrmedia @Uair @ifixcoinops And here I was wondering how to burn them down. Looks like all I have to do it wait.

          (But surely they have fire suppression!
          Oh, I'm sure. Built in a hurry by the lowest bidder.)

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          • peterf@mastodon.socialP peterf@mastodon.social

            @troublewithwords
            I imagine they would need certifying by a competent authority before connecting any HV cable.

            I imagine there are prescribed courses you must attend...or maybe Trump has cancelled the safety requirements 🤷

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            #16

            @PeterF @troublewithwords nah they're Disrupting things like building codes and ordinances

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            • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

              Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

              I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

              * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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              #17

              @troublewithwords ​ oh... oh no...

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              • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                @Uair @ifixcoinops @troublewithwords

                Data centres use both high voltage *and* high current, often 800V DC. this has all sorts of "interesting" differences with regard to arcing compared to AC, and is then converted to 48V for the racks at high current (so still a risk of arcing *and* fires)

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                #18

                @vfrmedia @Uair @ifixcoinops @troublewithwords The DC equipment is scary. MUCH harder for equipment to interrupt or “break” DC current.

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                • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                  Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                  I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                  * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                  #19

                  @troublewithwords A very c-suite kind of idea, with catastrophic consequences.

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                  • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                    Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                    I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                    * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                    #20

                    @troublewithwords what a bright idea... At least a few seconds bright. ⚡

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                    • ifixcoinops@retro.socialI ifixcoinops@retro.social

                      @troublewithwords this is very bad because AI is trained on Reddit and Reddit is full of people who are very confidently wrong about electricity and it will tell people that thousands of volts is fine at low amperage

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                      #21

                      @ifixcoinops
                      "Look, the first wire is red, and the second, much thicker wire, is also red; nothing could go wrong hooking them together"
                      @troublewithwords

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                      • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                        Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                        I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                        * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                        #22

                        @troublewithwords These masters of the universe are both senseless and reckless

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                        • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                          Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                          I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                          * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                          #23

                          @troublewithwords I desperately (and deludedly) didn’t wanna believe this was true.

                          I searched it. It’s true 😭. RIP to those working on this project in the future. I hope it’s at least quick 🫠

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                          • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                            Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                            I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                            * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                            #24

                            @troublewithwords Well, that development is shocking!

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                            • deltawye@tiggi.esD deltawye@tiggi.es

                              @troublewithwords There are big differences between terminating low voltage (480, 600V) and medium voltage (4160V, 7200V, 13.8kV) cables. Low voltage you strip back insulation and land, maybe connect a crimped on connector. Still requires being skilled and knowledgeable.

                              With medium and high voltage, there are a number of additional steps required to terminate. Stuff likes cable shields, semiconducting (as in isn’t totally an insulator) layers, building up insulating stress cones, understanding why you need to do stuff certain ways, things like that.

                              That’s just looking at the most boots-on-the-ground stuff.

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                              #25

                              @DeltaWye @troublewithwords Username definitely checks out.

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                              • peterf@mastodon.socialP peterf@mastodon.social

                                @troublewithwords
                                I imagine they would need certifying by a competent authority before connecting any HV cable.

                                I imagine there are prescribed courses you must attend...or maybe Trump has cancelled the safety requirements 🤷

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                                #26

                                @PeterF @troublewithwords Theory tests are just tests. I'm sure they can prep people desparate for work in 2-3days.
                                Most countries I know about also have an experience requirement, but those systems assume that there might be a single bad actor signing someone's paperwork for a bribe. Google has the capacity to build their own rubberstamping pipelines for that.
                                With >10kV systems at least it's a rather quick evaporation.

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                                • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                                  Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                                  I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                                  * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                                  @troublewithwords that's shocking

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                                  • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                                    Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                                    I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                                    * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                                    #28

                                    @troublewithwords @ParadeGrotesque Filing this under “that can't be a good idea”

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                                    • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                                      Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                                      I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                                      * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                                      #29

                                      @troublewithwords
                                      "You're absolutely right! Touching this wire did vaporize you. My mistake."

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                                      • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                                        Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                                        I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                                        * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                                        #30

                                        @troublewithwords Well, this is going to end with some more regulations written in blood... Inexperienced people trained by Reddit, what can possibly go wrong?

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                                        • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                                          Just heard* Google doesn't have enough high voltage electrical workers for its data centers, so it has decided to use AI to quickly train up noobs to deal with transmission lines handling thousands of volts.

                                          I need to uninternet for today. It makes me so tired.

                                          * Edit: To clarify "Heard" means from the mouth of a C-level executive at Google, not through the grapevine.

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                                          #31

                                          @troublewithwords
                                          "The C-suite was complaining that too many in-house electricians were dying in their datacentres, so I asked what there were doing about it and they said they just go to the unemployment centres and get another load of people to train with AI.

                                          "So I told them it sounded like they were feeding the poor to the substation, and their PR department started crying."

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