Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

[Gæst]

@eniko Somewhat not entirely in favor of this, due to the whole "WebPKI vs eIDAS QWACS" thing (i.e. Firefox as the "EU browser" would probably lose the sovereignity that it currently has in terms of which "trusted" CAs it bundles by default, and even though I have a positive view of eIDAS for document signing and user auth and such, I feel like it has no business touching web server certs)

[eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@anthrazit don't think chrome in a different jacket buys a lot of sovereignty

[dnj0104@mastodon.social]

@eniko @EUCommission

Problem is , EU it self doesn't follow its own rules, it is becoming authoritarian soon,

EU is on its way to soften up GDPR, the laws for groceries,
It soon starting with the age verification app.

[t_var_s@phpc.social]

@eniko @KimSJ @EUCommission The EU is a lawyer-powered organisation. Talk to China if you want any engineering done.

[bartv@mastodon.social]

@eniko @EUCommission oh! And we could call it Firefeux (“feux” meaning fires in French)

[konstruct@woof.tech]

@eniko @EUCommission buy Servo buy Servo buy Servo they banned LLM code fund Servo

Ahem I think it would be ethical and sovereign if the EU supported the Servo browser project

[eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@konstruct @EUCommission this would also be an acceptable outcome

[ratsnakegames@mastodon.social]

@eniko I do not Ursula von der Leyen to have control of my web browser. No way.

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo See where the Linux Foundation is located, and the latest outcomes from Rust internals.
Sorry, I don't see anything good in both of them.

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@konstruct @eniko @EUCommission Servo banned LLMs?
And servo is written in Rust, right?
Let's see for how long that will hold.

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@t_var_s @eniko @KimSJ @EUCommission China? I think that in Hong Kong and Taiwan they have a different feeling.

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@booboo @eniko @EUCommission And this would be a better idea than buying an US based company to develop EU software.

Oh well, then why not simply fund and support #LibreWolf which is already hosted on #Codeberg and developed in Europe?

[lnl@screaminginsi.de]

@luc0x61 @webbop Servo is under Linux Foundation Europe, Brussels, not the US one, and has a very different policy on AI https://book.servo.org/contributing/getting-started.html#ai-contributions

[trinsec@trinsec.org]

@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Don't we have Vivaldi?

[mu@mastodon.nz]

@luc0x61 @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo certainly rust is looking more and more like trash every day

[webbop@tech.lgbt]

@luc0x61 @eniko Please don't start some anti-Rust tireade, what else? Microsoft's .NET?

Rust offers genuinely benefits, and is no less easier to work with. Sry but I'm not going down to the level of not having access to arrays or vectors

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@lnl @webbop Oh good, so only one of my conjectures holds.

However, I'm a misanthropist, you can't convince me that any "most important" software developer group is the good part. I'm honestly sorry.

[hiphopheaven@mastodon.social]

@luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission vivaldi is europeen.

[turre@mementomori.social]

@hiphopheaven @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission
Vivaldi is not open-source. No matter how good the intentions of current Vivaldi leadership, without the source you're forever the hostage.

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@hiphopheaven @booboo @eniko @EUCommission Right, just has the disadvantage of being not open sourced, which could be a plus for any initiative to be supported in the public interest.
Here's why I mentioned @librewolf