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  3. Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

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  • anthrazit@mastodon.socialA anthrazit@mastodon.social

    @eniko @EUCommission
    Vivaldi is a better browser than Firefox and european as well.

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    eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place
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    #10

    @anthrazit don't think chrome in a different jacket buys a lot of sovereignty

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

      Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

      Think about it

      dnj0104@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @eniko @EUCommission

      Problem is , EU it self doesn't follow its own rules, it is becoming authoritarian soon,

      EU is on its way to soften up GDPR, the laws for groceries,
      It soon starting with the age verification app.

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

        Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

        Think about it

        t_var_s@phpc.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        t_var_s@phpc.social
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        #12

        @eniko @KimSJ @EUCommission The EU is a lawyer-powered organisation. Talk to China if you want any engineering done.

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

          Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

          Think about it

          bartv@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @eniko @EUCommission oh! And we could call it Firefeux (“feux” meaning fires in French)

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

            Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

            Think about it

            konstruct@woof.techK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @eniko @EUCommission buy Servo buy Servo buy Servo they banned LLM code fund Servo

            Ahem I think it would be ethical and sovereign if the EU supported the Servo browser project

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            • konstruct@woof.techK konstruct@woof.tech

              @eniko @EUCommission buy Servo buy Servo buy Servo they banned LLM code fund Servo

              Ahem I think it would be ethical and sovereign if the EU supported the Servo browser project

              eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @konstruct @EUCommission this would also be an acceptable outcome

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                Think about it

                ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @eniko I do not Ursula von der Leyen to have control of my web browser. No way.

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                • webbop@tech.lgbtW webbop@tech.lgbt

                  @eniko @EUCommission Oh btw @servo is kind of that, it's based entirely in the EU and is supported by the Linux Foundation, it's made from the ground-up in Rust, no other browser engine!

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                  #17

                  @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo See where the Linux Foundation is located, and the latest outcomes from Rust internals.
                  Sorry, I don't see anything good in both of them.

                  lnl@screaminginsi.deL mu@mastodon.nzM webbop@tech.lgbtW 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • konstruct@woof.techK konstruct@woof.tech

                    @eniko @EUCommission buy Servo buy Servo buy Servo they banned LLM code fund Servo

                    Ahem I think it would be ethical and sovereign if the EU supported the Servo browser project

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                    luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                    #18

                    @konstruct @eniko @EUCommission Servo banned LLMs?
                    And servo is written in Rust, right?
                    Let's see for how long that will hold.

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                    • t_var_s@phpc.socialT t_var_s@phpc.social

                      @eniko @KimSJ @EUCommission The EU is a lawyer-powered organisation. Talk to China if you want any engineering done.

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                      #19

                      @t_var_s @eniko @KimSJ @EUCommission China? I think that in Hong Kong and Taiwan they have a different feeling.

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                      • booboo@mastodon.unoB booboo@mastodon.uno

                        @eniko @EUCommission

                        It would be enough to fork it. I've been saying this forever.

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                        #20

                        @booboo @eniko @EUCommission And this would be a better idea than buying an US based company to develop EU software.

                        Oh well, then why not simply fund and support #LibreWolf which is already hosted on #Codeberg and developed in Europe?

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                        • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo See where the Linux Foundation is located, and the latest outcomes from Rust internals.
                          Sorry, I don't see anything good in both of them.

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                          #21

                          @luc0x61 @webbop Servo is under Linux Foundation Europe, Brussels, not the US one, and has a very different policy on AI https://book.servo.org/contributing/getting-started.html#ai-contributions

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                            Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                            Think about it

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                            #22

                            @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Don't we have Vivaldi?

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                            • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo See where the Linux Foundation is located, and the latest outcomes from Rust internals.
                              Sorry, I don't see anything good in both of them.

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                              #23

                              @luc0x61 @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo certainly rust is looking more and more like trash every day

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                              • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo See where the Linux Foundation is located, and the latest outcomes from Rust internals.
                                Sorry, I don't see anything good in both of them.

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                                #24

                                @luc0x61 @eniko Please don't start some anti-Rust tireade, what else? Microsoft's .NET?

                                Rust offers genuinely benefits, and is no less easier to work with. Sry but I'm not going down to the level of not having access to arrays or vectors

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                                • lnl@screaminginsi.deL lnl@screaminginsi.de

                                  @luc0x61 @webbop Servo is under Linux Foundation Europe, Brussels, not the US one, and has a very different policy on AI https://book.servo.org/contributing/getting-started.html#ai-contributions

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                                  #25

                                  @lnl @webbop Oh good, so only one of my conjectures holds.

                                  However, I'm a misanthropist, you can't convince me that any "most important" software developer group is the good part. I'm honestly sorry.

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                                  • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @booboo @eniko @EUCommission And this would be a better idea than buying an US based company to develop EU software.

                                    Oh well, then why not simply fund and support #LibreWolf which is already hosted on #Codeberg and developed in Europe?

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                                    #26

                                    @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission vivaldi is europeen.

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                                    • hiphopheaven@mastodon.socialH hiphopheaven@mastodon.social

                                      @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission vivaldi is europeen.

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                                      #27

                                      @hiphopheaven @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission
                                      Vivaldi is not open-source. No matter how good the intentions of current Vivaldi leadership, without the source you're forever the hostage.

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                                      • hiphopheaven@mastodon.socialH hiphopheaven@mastodon.social

                                        @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission vivaldi is europeen.

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                                        luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                                        #28

                                        @hiphopheaven @booboo @eniko @EUCommission Right, just has the disadvantage of being not open sourced, which could be a plus for any initiative to be supported in the public interest.
                                        Here's why I mentioned @librewolf

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

                                          Or even just funding a non-profit to maintain an EU fork which does things like respect EU laws and regulations

                                          Think about it

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                                          #29

                                          @eniko @EUCommission this would be such a sane thing to do. It requires a lot of letter writing and campaigning to get that into Brussels.

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