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  3. I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service.

I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service.

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  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

    @CiaraNi And if they were just read by AI bots? 😉 Imagine AI trained on such emails ... @FaithfullJohn

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    #18

    @NatureMC @FaithfullJohn Yes indeed - that was one of my points in the main toot. That I spend my time trying to word fair and constructive customer feedback, only for it to be 'read' by a bot. Most frustrating.

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @FaithfullJohn Thanks for the encouragement. I feel daft doing it. Like the Skibereen Eagle warning the Czar of Russia that someone in Kerry was keeping an eye on him. But I find all the AI and enshittification to be so degrading, such an insulting use of the human customer's time, and also so unethical and useless. So I will continue to write my little mails, that probably get laughed at at the other end.

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      #19

      @CiaraNi i have done this occasionally, and should probably do it more. Obvs only a drop in the ocean, but it's not nothing... 😤 #ResistanceIsUseful

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      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

        @CiaraNi I feel you! I don't have the energy to write mails. I stop using such companies, if possible, and give them a public review (yes, on Google, visible for all).
        I use my energy for compliments to the good people.

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        #20

        @NatureMC It's so tiring and tiresome. I resent the time and energy I spend on the mails I write after they've already wasted my time and energy with bad AI-based customer service. (That's on top of the ethical and environmental problems with their use of AI in this way in the first place.)

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        • faithfulljohn@mastodon.scotF faithfulljohn@mastodon.scot

          @CiaraNi i have done this occasionally, and should probably do it more. Obvs only a drop in the ocean, but it's not nothing... 😤 #ResistanceIsUseful

          eclectech@things.ukE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #21

          @FaithfullJohn Me too, both in having done it, but probably not enough. Much support for your Shouting At Cloud campaign @CiaraNi ✊

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          • faithfulljohn@mastodon.scotF faithfulljohn@mastodon.scot

            @CiaraNi i have done this occasionally, and should probably do it more. Obvs only a drop in the ocean, but it's not nothing... 😤 #ResistanceIsUseful

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            #22

            @FaithfullJohn I enjoy writing the ones that praise good, non-AI, human service, at least. They are fewer, alas, but I feel they make up for the time I spend on the negative ones.

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            • eclectech@things.ukE eclectech@things.uk

              @FaithfullJohn Me too, both in having done it, but probably not enough. Much support for your Shouting At Cloud campaign @CiaraNi ✊

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              #23

              @eclectech @FaithfullJohn Ah thank you 🙂

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                @NatureMC @FaithfullJohn Yes indeed - that was one of my points in the main toot. That I spend my time trying to word fair and constructive customer feedback, only for it to be 'read' by a bot. Most frustrating.

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                #24

                @CiaraNi I'm also an #oldWomanYellingAtCloud ... Recently, I wrote a fact checking artikel about some very bad #AISlop about #nature. The slop went so viral that people believe it, not the science.
                Today, I found the slop again, big account searching clicks.
                The desaster: in search machines you find the slop, not my article, and not the facts or science. But I still don't want to give up. Not yet.

                Like species loss, we'll get a #knowledgeLoss.

                @FaithfullJohn

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                • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                  @CiaraNi I'm also an #oldWomanYellingAtCloud ... Recently, I wrote a fact checking artikel about some very bad #AISlop about #nature. The slop went so viral that people believe it, not the science.
                  Today, I found the slop again, big account searching clicks.
                  The desaster: in search machines you find the slop, not my article, and not the facts or science. But I still don't want to give up. Not yet.

                  Like species loss, we'll get a #knowledgeLoss.

                  @FaithfullJohn

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                  #25

                  @NatureMC Good for you for doing something, for trying to combat the misinformation with an actual fact-checked article.

                  "Like species loss, we'll get a knowledge loss" - well put, and so sad

                  @FaithfullJohn

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    This grumpy thought is brought to you by the fact that I have 3 mails to write after abysmal AI customer experiences this week. On the plus side though, I had a quick & good experience with hands-on human help at my insurance company. I didn’t even have to battle through a phone tree or ’we have a website!' messages to speak to the human in the first place. I want to say something when I see something good, too. To compliment their corporate choices. So I will write a mail of praise to them too.

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                    #26

                    @CiaraNi I feel for you...!!!
                    In the UK it was (is?) common to write directly to the CEO of the company when the customer service dept would not deal with it... an idea? Not sure if it would work in DK

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                    • giosci@social.vivaldi.netG giosci@social.vivaldi.net

                      @CiaraNi I feel for you...!!!
                      In the UK it was (is?) common to write directly to the CEO of the company when the customer service dept would not deal with it... an idea? Not sure if it would work in DK

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                      #27

                      @giosci I have had that thought too. It is - or perhaps 'was', in real letter-writing days - a strategy in Ireland as well. It requires an entirely new layer of time and effort, though - finding the name and contact information, another follow-up mail, etc.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service. And when their app is only available to Google & Apple customers. Their AI wastes my time with useless ’customer service’. I take time to word constructive customer feedback. Their AI reads it. I spend time reading a useless AI reply. AI increases productivity my bollix. What a waste of human time.

                        #OldWomanYellsAtCloud

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                        #28

                        @CiaraNi RIGHT? I had to send off a complaint recently to Kobo re: their AI "assistant." The dumbass AI told me there was a "feedback" button on the home page. Said button literally does not exist. When I told it that, it spat something inane back like "You're correct to call me out on that." When I asked to speak with a human, it directed me to a chat feature that ALSO did not exist. I was eventually able to get through to a human, but not after a whole bunch of my time had been wasted.

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service. And when their app is only available to Google & Apple customers. Their AI wastes my time with useless ’customer service’. I take time to word constructive customer feedback. Their AI reads it. I spend time reading a useless AI reply. AI increases productivity my bollix. What a waste of human time.

                          #OldWomanYellsAtCloud

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                          #29

                          @CiaraNi

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                          • venite@wandering.shopV venite@wandering.shop

                            @CiaraNi

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                            #30

                            @venite Thank you for making me laugh 🙂

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service. And when their app is only available to Google & Apple customers. Their AI wastes my time with useless ’customer service’. I take time to word constructive customer feedback. Their AI reads it. I spend time reading a useless AI reply. AI increases productivity my bollix. What a waste of human time.

                              #OldWomanYellsAtCloud

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                              #31

                              @CiaraNi

                              Are reviews on Trustpilot useful for letting companies know how we feel?

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service. And when their app is only available to Google & Apple customers. Their AI wastes my time with useless ’customer service’. I take time to word constructive customer feedback. Their AI reads it. I spend time reading a useless AI reply. AI increases productivity my bollix. What a waste of human time.

                                #OldWomanYellsAtCloud

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                                #32

                                @CiaraNi all the times i have had an AI support i ve felt it as a waste of time much worse than the previous answering machines with discrete options. As it just provides you with the FAQ info (in the best case) that i had always read before writing and it keeps you wasting your time till moving/forwarding the question to real support

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service. And when their app is only available to Google & Apple customers. Their AI wastes my time with useless ’customer service’. I take time to word constructive customer feedback. Their AI reads it. I spend time reading a useless AI reply. AI increases productivity my bollix. What a waste of human time.

                                  #OldWomanYellsAtCloud

                                  kimlockhartga@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #33

                                  @CiaraNi It is at least a two woman campaign. 😃 I have also specifically dropped companies with whom I used to do regular biz, because they replaced their customer service with AI. And restaurants like Chuy's lost my business due to wanting customers to either use an app, or scan a qr code. You have table service. Just give me a damn menu! Maybe I'm old, but I hate these trends.

                                  AI customer service is neither.

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                                  • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

                                    @CiaraNi It is at least a two woman campaign. 😃 I have also specifically dropped companies with whom I used to do regular biz, because they replaced their customer service with AI. And restaurants like Chuy's lost my business due to wanting customers to either use an app, or scan a qr code. You have table service. Just give me a damn menu! Maybe I'm old, but I hate these trends.

                                    AI customer service is neither.

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                                    #34

                                    @kimlockhartga @CiaraNi I've been in restaurants with the scan the QR code for the menu and the restaurant is too dimly lit for phone cameras to pick them up!

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                                    • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

                                      @CiaraNi It is at least a two woman campaign. 😃 I have also specifically dropped companies with whom I used to do regular biz, because they replaced their customer service with AI. And restaurants like Chuy's lost my business due to wanting customers to either use an app, or scan a qr code. You have table service. Just give me a damn menu! Maybe I'm old, but I hate these trends.

                                      AI customer service is neither.

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                                      #35

                                      @kimlockhartga @CiaraNi It's funny, the reactions to QR codes. My first reaction was &$%&@#&% kids. Then I started using then. The best part, in my opinion, is that they typically have the specials on that menu and I don't have to listen to a recitation of them. Plus I have the prices for them. However, because of our age, the servers usually ask "Would you prefer a paper menu?"

                                      To the AI, I repeat, over and over again "Agent." Until I get a human. Fuck AI.

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                                      • urbanfoxe@mastodon.ieU urbanfoxe@mastodon.ie

                                        @kimlockhartga @CiaraNi I've been in restaurants with the scan the QR code for the menu and the restaurant is too dimly lit for phone cameras to pick them up!

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                                        #36

                                        @urbanfoxe @CiaraNi oh man. That is some real lack of preparation on their part.

                                        I worked for a while for Fleming's Steakhouse and Winebar (same restaurant group that owns Carrabba's and Outback Steakhouse) and they kept the place so dark you could hardly see a thing.

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service. And when their app is only available to Google & Apple customers. Their AI wastes my time with useless ’customer service’. I take time to word constructive customer feedback. Their AI reads it. I spend time reading a useless AI reply. AI increases productivity my bollix. What a waste of human time.

                                          #OldWomanYellsAtCloud

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                                          #37

                                          @CiaraNi

                                          I was faced with an unpleasant AI customer service bot last week. It cost hours my time, but I know how to work the corporate structure and cost them money.

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