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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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    #163

    @CiaraNi It's the same for software. The amount of AI vibe coded slop will make people question software crafted over many years

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    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

      @stekopf That posting account takes only photos from elsewhere (not their owns), from often not trustful sources in social media ... and many of these photos are AI-generated. (I blocked the account for exactly that).
      That "quoted" X-account is one of these "generated" pseudo-nature accounts. I can't see more of X but I'm nearly sure that the whole account works with AI.

      @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

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      #164

      @NatureMC
      You're probably right 😕
      https://mastodon.ie/@BenAveling/116439065176860310
      @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

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      • stekopf@mstdn.socialS stekopf@mstdn.social

        @NatureMC
        You're probably right 😕
        https://mastodon.ie/@BenAveling/116439065176860310
        @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

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        #165

        @stekopf Look here: https://mastodon.online/@NatureMC/116454180399370710

        BTW, fact-checking is part of my profession.

        @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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          #166

          @CiaraNi My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. And yeah, I'm scared that it'll make me more skeptical of even the real things

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          • ericjames@booping.synth.downloadE ericjames@booping.synth.download

            @CiaraNi@mastodon.green

            cc
            @qualia@floofy.tech you were right

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            #167

            @ericjames @CiaraNi i'd figured. i find no joy in this revelation

            i'm going to try and take one nice real photo today out of spite

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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              #168

              @CiaraNi thanks for the information. I am fedup with this crap. This might lead to internets decay

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                #169

                @CiaraNi
                The one I saw here in Fedi the other day was going on about how "i didn't think it was real, but it's from this photographer on FB's wife so it's really real!"

                Which was not annoying to me than anything, as it seems people are inventing stories to defend it.

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                • 955_36@sfba.social9 955_36@sfba.social

                  @NatureMC @CiaraNi @monkee I am retiring from my business as a web designer because I'm tired dealing with the fall out from AI scapers and hackers. What used to be a fun creative job has turned into being a security analyst. Not what I want to be doing.

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                  #170

                  @955_36 That's very sad. @CiaraNi @monkee

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                  • qualia@floofy.techQ qualia@floofy.tech

                    @ericjames @CiaraNi i'd figured. i find no joy in this revelation

                    i'm going to try and take one nice real photo today out of spite

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                    #171

                    @qualia @ericjames

                    "I'm going to try and take one nice real photo today out of spite" - I really like that as a response. Whenever we see some machine-generated slop being presented as human, we put the balance of the Earth back by creating something nice and human-made.

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                    • F frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                      @CiaraNi Im still suspicious of alt text as a way to train ia into reading or cataloguing images, thats why i dont use it. I think resources are the best way 🤠

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                      #172

                      @FrutigerAero00 It's a fair concern. I will keep writing and reading Alt Text, though, because it's human-to-human support, a human-to-human exchange, so I'm not letting the people wielding the sea-boiling language-guessing machines ruin that on us too.

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                      • ox1de@cyberplace.socialO ox1de@cyberplace.social

                        @CiaraNi it will only get worse, mayhem is around the corner

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                        #173

                        @Ox1de I wish that sounded like hyperbole, but given the way AI-use has been going, I fear it's not.

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                        • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                          @RalphBassfeld

                          Use two spaces after a full stop, use Briticisms (such as "full stop" rather than "period"), and perhaps inject a gratuitous swear word. GenAI never does any of these things.

                          @CiaraNi

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                          #174

                          @CppGuy @RalphBassfeld Good idea, but I fear it'd be an arms race. We change our behaviour as an evasive technique, then the machines get trained to do that thing too. I would think GAI can already handle regional varieties of language - I don't use it so I don't know for certain. If not now, soon, probably.

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                          • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                            @awws

                            I can think of a few highly speculative motivations:

                            • Some platforms enable users to monetise popular accounts
                            • Some accounts gather lots of followers and then shift to posting other, more contentious material
                            • Maybe this is a way of gathering information about large numbers of followers?
                            • Maybe the person who prompted the AI thinks that these images are legitimate art and just wants to show them off without the stigma of slop
                            • Maybe someone is angling for a job as a professional photographer but doesn't have a portfolio and wants to build one the easy way

                            As I say, this is all just speculation.

                            @CiaraNi @henryk

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                            #175

                            @CppGuy They are all plausible and likely scenarios.

                            "Some accounts gather lots of followers and then shift to posting other, more contentious material" - this had never occurred to me. It sounds very possible, especially given right-wing digital strategies. Yikes.

                            @awws @henryk

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                            • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                              @CiaraNi @Amorpheus Yes, we have to, but the AI-fueled deceit is forcing us into a skepticism overload that can very easily make us cynical & suspicious.

                              Just earlier today I had to verify this pic & honestly I'm still not entirely sure of it (see the thread) - but it's clearly the sort of thing where, before AI, I would not assume that anyone would go through the trouble of photoshopping it, so I would have just taken it at its pretty cool face value...

                              https://mastodon.social/@AwetTesfaiesus/116452226201997678

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                              #176

                              @jwcph @Amorpheus Snap! I saw this image early and it felt 'off'. After a quick look, I moved on without interacting it. It felt like AI, it felt manipulated, but we can't be investigating every one. When in doubt now, I ignore and scroll on, muttering under by breath. (I only tooted about the 'water crown on bird' one because I saw it amid other toots where really good human photographers were being asked by unsure people if their real photos were AI. It was an awful contrast.)

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                              • cauzation@mastodon.socialC cauzation@mastodon.social

                                @CiaraNi Further illustration on how educational systems have been failing. This is especially poignant during more destabilized economies of scale.

                                How do we flip-the-script?..

                                #BehavioralScience #CoreEducation #GenZ #Resist

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                                #177

                                @cauZation I hope digital literacy teaching in schools is able to keep up with the AI onslaught, but I feel sorry for the human teachers dealing with it.

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                                • brianjohnson@mastodon.sdf.orgB brianjohnson@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  @CiaraNi Absolutely. This reminds me immediately of how certain politicians lie continually. They don't expect to be believed, necessarily: but they aim to break down trust; to make people think that *all* politicians lie continually; and then they come along with their answers to everything.

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                                  #178

                                  @brianjohnson Yes, a fine comparison. That's what it feels like.

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                                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                    @CiaraNi more frequently). The algorithms churn out fakes, misinformation. The abyss between people and nature is widening. Professional work is becoming invisible to search engines.
                                    And that's dangerous for nature ... and humans.
                                    I often feel like Don Quixote ... AI slop being the windmills ...

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                                    #179

                                    @NatureMC Well said - all of this. Great points, worrying points. It bugs me too that the fakes keep getting circulated, even after it's clear they're not real.

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                                    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                      @CiaraNi more frequently). The algorithms churn out fakes, misinformation. The abyss between people and nature is widening. Professional work is becoming invisible to search engines.
                                      And that's dangerous for nature ... and humans.
                                      I often feel like Don Quixote ... AI slop being the windmills ...

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                                      #180

                                      @NatureMC

                                      "The abyss between people and nature is widening. Professional work is becoming invisible to search engines.
                                      And that's dangerous for nature ... and humans."

                                      It's worrying and depressing.

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                                      • N nicelymanifest@mastodon.social

                                        @CiaraNi AI will gouge out trust in almost everything online. Doubt they pondered long on that matter as they all rush to get the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

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                                        @NicelyManifest I think you're right, alas.

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                                        • bosquebill@techhub.socialB bosquebill@techhub.social

                                          @CiaraNi @elaterite Darn, my pride has taken a blow—no one has ever accused one of my photos as done by AI. Maybe I need to crank up the saturation slider next time? 😉

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                                          #182

                                          @bosquebill @elaterite Next time you post a lovely photo of a dragonfly in the desert, put a wee bowler hat on it and I will jump in and yell "Oi! AI!"

                                          🙂

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