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  • nando161@partyon.xyzN nando161@partyon.xyz

    @lienrag @slothrop https://riseup.net/en

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    #16

    @nando161

    Sure, RiseUp is very good, and much more trustworthy¹ than Proton.
    They're not playing in the same category.
    But Riseup is invitation-only, and from what I've been told, they don't provide new tokens (to invite people) anymore.
    It's not a general-purpose resource like Proton is, but a (very useful) service dedicated for militants.

    ¹note though that their privacy canary is dead; I understand why they don't put a new one on, but it's still a problem

    @slothrop

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    • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

      @nando161

      Sure, RiseUp is very good, and much more trustworthy¹ than Proton.
      They're not playing in the same category.
      But Riseup is invitation-only, and from what I've been told, they don't provide new tokens (to invite people) anymore.
      It's not a general-purpose resource like Proton is, but a (very useful) service dedicated for militants.

      ¹note though that their privacy canary is dead; I understand why they don't put a new one on, but it's still a problem

      @slothrop

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      #17

      @lienrag @slothrop I still have an account as I'm still a militant antifascist anarchist.

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      • willegible@mastodon.ieW willegible@mastodon.ie

        @hcf @slothrop The thing that sets you apart from Lapierre there is that he was accepted into their influencer programme and given a custom public referral link. Oh, and I confidently assume, also that you're not a pustulent shitbag.

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        #18

        @willegible @slothrop I can be pretty annoying sometimes to some people 🤣

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        • nando161@partyon.xyzN nando161@partyon.xyz

          @lienrag @slothrop I still have an account as I'm still a militant antifascist anarchist.

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          #19

          @nando161

          Yes, existing accounts are still working.
          But can you still generate tokens ?
          (genuine question)

          @slothrop

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          • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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            #20

            @internic @slothrop you know perfectly this is not how advertisement on ads work... bye

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            • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

              @nando161

              Yes, existing accounts are still working.
              But can you still generate tokens ?
              (genuine question)

              @slothrop

              nando161@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #21

              @lienrag @slothrop I assume so, I will login today and make sure I can though.

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              • mimesatwork@wandering.shopM mimesatwork@wandering.shop

                @tempusfelix @slothrop For now, Tutamail. Mailo also seems ok, but tbh, being a non-entity doesn't necessarily mean the company is fine, just means there's currently no evidence of fascism

                jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #22

                @Mimesatwork @tempusfelix @slothrop

                @Tutanota (tutamail) is on Fedi.

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                • drsbaitso@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #23

                  @alice @slothrop Yeah, unfortunately they had some bullshit around vocally supporting Trump and the christofascist GOP early last year. They got butthurt for getting called out on it and decided to "refocus [their] social media efforts" which meant slumbering their fediverse account.

                  I canceled my Proton Founder's subscription and moved over to @fastmail specifically because they supported more private domains. I've been very happy with the service.

                  The other recommendation I always see floating around is @Tutanota but they only documented 10 private domains when I was looking

                  gabriel@fedi.gvisoc.comG troed@swecyb.comT 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • willegible@mastodon.ieW willegible@mastodon.ie

                    @slothrop It looks to me like Lapierre joined Proton's 'influencers' programme (https://proton.me/partners). The most charitable interpretation is that Proton perform no real vetting on the 'influencers' who apply and are unaware of their content. That charitable interpretation is bad enough. The less charitable interpretations, of course, are that Proton don't care about or even endorse their content. Needless to say, even the most charitable interpretation is unacceptable.

                    tankgrrl@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #24

                    @willegible @slothrop
                    Andy Chen de Proton, un fan de la nouvelle administration Trump (et de l'ancienne).

                    Andy Chen of Proton was a fan of the new Trump administration as well as the old one.

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                    • tankgrrl@hachyderm.ioT tankgrrl@hachyderm.io

                      @willegible @slothrop
                      Andy Chen de Proton, un fan de la nouvelle administration Trump (et de l'ancienne).

                      Andy Chen of Proton was a fan of the new Trump administration as well as the old one.

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                      #25

                      @tankgrrl @slothrop I am quite aware of this post.

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                      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                        RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                        If you’re still using Proton mail:

                        The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                        If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                        UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                        #proton #fash

                        yaxu@post.lurk.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #26

                        @slothrop Are you sure that's not just a generic affiliate link that anyone can sign up for?

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                        • yaxu@post.lurk.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #27

                          @slothrop and?

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                          • yaxu@post.lurk.orgY yaxu@post.lurk.org

                            @slothrop and?

                            slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #28

                            @yaxu well, your call, I guess?

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                            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                              RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                              If you’re still using Proton mail:

                              The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                              If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                              UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                              #proton #fash

                              kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #29

                              @slothrop

                              Boycott Proton as if it were a secret agent working for the Nazis, because it is.

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #30

                                @alice @slothrop

                                we also used to like #twitter

                                the unfortunate truth is plutocrats can destroy any company by buying it out

                                the only solution is to side eye any for profit business venture. it can be bought out, and once bought out, it can be gutted of its original purpose

                                of course there's also the phenomenon of the #techbro founding a company and winning adulation and *then* we find out about their true sentiments

                                (hello, #bluesky )

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                                • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                  RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                  If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                  The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                  If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                  UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                  #proton #fash

                                  shojiwax@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  shojiwax@mastodon.online
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #31

                                  @slothrop

                                  1. Moving your email provider is a non trivial task.
                                  2. I have just finished moving my entire ecosystem from google to proton (ie mail, password manager, VPN etc) because google sux.
                                  3. I am so tired of this shit.

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                                  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                    RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                    If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                    The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                    If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                    UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                    https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                    #proton #fash

                                    ianhecht@mstdn.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #32

                                    @slothrop C'est très décourageant. Y a-t-il une compagnie de courriel chiffré plus raisonnable sur le plan politique?

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                                    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                      RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                      If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                      The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                      If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                      UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                      #proton #fash

                                      plantagolabs@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #33

                                      @slothrop Noooooo I just moved away from google and started to get comfy with proton mail. 😭

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                                      • strangenoises@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #34

                                        @Brett_E_Carlock @drsbaitso @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota I have been considering Mailbox.org for my eventual flight from gmail. It seems more like a basic ye olde mail provider rather than another lock-in. Someone can now tell me why they’re evil too… 😩

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @alice @slothrop

                                          we also used to like #twitter

                                          the unfortunate truth is plutocrats can destroy any company by buying it out

                                          the only solution is to side eye any for profit business venture. it can be bought out, and once bought out, it can be gutted of its original purpose

                                          of course there's also the phenomenon of the #techbro founding a company and winning adulation and *then* we find out about their true sentiments

                                          (hello, #bluesky )

                                          drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          drangnon@hachyderm.io
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #35

                                          @benroyce what are you using for your email? @alice @slothrop

                                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB slothrop@chaos.socialS 2 Replies Last reply
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