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  3. For those who keep using "we" when it is not.

For those who keep using "we" when it is not.

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  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

    For those who keep using "we" when it is not.

    The fascists want us to believe that we are all responsible for the atrocities *they* are committing.

    It is not we the people who are destroying life as we have known it.

    It is a miniscule percentage of fascistic psychopathic billionaires.

    When they first advertised their fascist plan in the 70s, few recognised exactly how dangerous they were.

    Even Chomsky said he underestimated their ferocity.

    #USpol #Europol #fascism .

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    @DrALJONES the same grin in their lips

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    • filobus@sociale.networkF filobus@sociale.network

      @DrALJONES the same grin in their lips

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      @filobus

      Well-spotted. Yes, saying, "i'll do whatever I like to you, you miserable peasants"

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      • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

        For those who keep using "we" when it is not.

        The fascists want us to believe that we are all responsible for the atrocities *they* are committing.

        It is not we the people who are destroying life as we have known it.

        It is a miniscule percentage of fascistic psychopathic billionaires.

        When they first advertised their fascist plan in the 70s, few recognised exactly how dangerous they were.

        Even Chomsky said he underestimated their ferocity.

        #USpol #Europol #fascism .

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        @DrALJONES

        I didn't underestimate it. They actually told us what they were going to do in project 25, and then half assedly lied about it. Also check out 'dark Gothic MAGA' on YouTube if you haven't. Nothing (plausible) could stop them, which is why nothing has.

        What I'm saying is that the 'normal' response isn't going to work. Unless some agency etc has a secret plan to save the world, we are going to have to fix this, by hook or by crook. Something extraordinary has to be done.

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          @DrALJONES

          I didn't underestimate it. They actually told us what they were going to do in project 25, and then half assedly lied about it. Also check out 'dark Gothic MAGA' on YouTube if you haven't. Nothing (plausible) could stop them, which is why nothing has.

          What I'm saying is that the 'normal' response isn't going to work. Unless some agency etc has a secret plan to save the world, we are going to have to fix this, by hook or by crook. Something extraordinary has to be done.

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          @GutterPoetry

          I was talking about the 1970s. Chomsky, et al. Have amended to be clearer. Of course it was clear in Project25.

          Their entire project would fall over if people resisted in an organised way. Plenty of detail in the resistance literature.

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          • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

            @GutterPoetry

            I was talking about the 1970s. Chomsky, et al. Have amended to be clearer. Of course it was clear in Project25.

            Their entire project would fall over if people resisted in an organised way. Plenty of detail in the resistance literature.

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            @DrALJONES

            People are resisting, just not enough of them, and generally people are too afraid to lose what they have. They need to understand - that will happen anyway if this isn't stopped, plus a lot worse.

            trump is going to destroy the world (eg. global heating), or he will let the christofascists do so (to fulfil their prophecies). Maybe he believes his magical thinking about global heating being fake, but that doesn't matter. If every non-MAGA protested, would trump leave power?

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              @DrALJONES

              People are resisting, just not enough of them, and generally people are too afraid to lose what they have. They need to understand - that will happen anyway if this isn't stopped, plus a lot worse.

              trump is going to destroy the world (eg. global heating), or he will let the christofascists do so (to fulfil their prophecies). Maybe he believes his magical thinking about global heating being fake, but that doesn't matter. If every non-MAGA protested, would trump leave power?

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              @DrALJONES

              I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, just that I can't see a plausible path out of this and I usually can see that kind of thing, which either means there's something I dont know or there isn't a plausible path.

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              • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                @DrALJONES

                People are resisting, just not enough of them, and generally people are too afraid to lose what they have. They need to understand - that will happen anyway if this isn't stopped, plus a lot worse.

                trump is going to destroy the world (eg. global heating), or he will let the christofascists do so (to fulfil their prophecies). Maybe he believes his magical thinking about global heating being fake, but that doesn't matter. If every non-MAGA protested, would trump leave power?

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                @GutterPoetry

                Yes.

                Ppl need to read the literature to grasp what comprises "organised" resistance. We can help by providing/boosting brief explanations & links to sources.

                Icymi, Tad Stoermer on what the opposition needs to do:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoR807KZIH4

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                • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                  @DrALJONES

                  I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, just that I can't see a plausible path out of this and I usually can see that kind of thing, which either means there's something I dont know or there isn't a plausible path.

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                  @GutterPoetry

                  1. Trump is a mere puppet of the few hundred fascistic billionaires who go to Davos every year to decide how best to crush us even smaller.

                  They don't even need him, which is why Vance was one of the billionaires' "requests".

                  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election

                  2. Re "plausible", given that it depends on mass resistance, there's no guarantee of a way out. There's simply no decent alternative to keeping on fighting.

                  We might not suceed. Or we might.

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                  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                    @GutterPoetry

                    1. Trump is a mere puppet of the few hundred fascistic billionaires who go to Davos every year to decide how best to crush us even smaller.

                    They don't even need him, which is why Vance was one of the billionaires' "requests".

                    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election

                    2. Re "plausible", given that it depends on mass resistance, there's no guarantee of a way out. There's simply no decent alternative to keeping on fighting.

                    We might not suceed. Or we might.

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                    @GutterPoetry

                    PS I find that "knowing thy enemy" as best you can does two things:

                    Helps in deciding on strategy and tactics

                    Helps allieviate a sense of hopelessness (they want us to despair so we'll give up)

                    If you haven't done already, join a resistance group. Remember: resistance groups have different wings for different purposes, open & covert.

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                    • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                      @GutterPoetry

                      1. Trump is a mere puppet of the few hundred fascistic billionaires who go to Davos every year to decide how best to crush us even smaller.

                      They don't even need him, which is why Vance was one of the billionaires' "requests".

                      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election

                      2. Re "plausible", given that it depends on mass resistance, there's no guarantee of a way out. There's simply no decent alternative to keeping on fighting.

                      We might not suceed. Or we might.

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                      @DrALJONES
                      1.Agreed except Vance is also trump's minder - the MAGA masters know what a disaster trump was last time... Remember all the petty insanity? Injecting bleach, horse dewormer etc? Seems kinda innocent now it's Gulags. Also trump is important as MAGA's prophesied figurehead. So much of the movement's power came from Q conspiracy theories etc - that's all trump. MAGA's delusion rests on trump and if you remember, the masters pushed back on trump, but dropped it when MAGA insisted.

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                      • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                        @DrALJONES
                        1.Agreed except Vance is also trump's minder - the MAGA masters know what a disaster trump was last time... Remember all the petty insanity? Injecting bleach, horse dewormer etc? Seems kinda innocent now it's Gulags. Also trump is important as MAGA's prophesied figurehead. So much of the movement's power came from Q conspiracy theories etc - that's all trump. MAGA's delusion rests on trump and if you remember, the masters pushed back on trump, but dropped it when MAGA insisted.

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                        @DrALJONES

                        IMO Thiel etc are smart - professional risk assessors who rose to the top. They wouldn't ordinarily bet on trump, which is why they weren't behind his first election win. This is the big bet for them - showing their hand to the world. If they lose, they lose everything. If they win they think they'll have 'true freedom' (complete control). What to chase after money?

                        trump has been manipulated by russia for years, all his tough man stuff is just an act that I doubt he believes.

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                          @DrALJONES
                          1.Agreed except Vance is also trump's minder - the MAGA masters know what a disaster trump was last time... Remember all the petty insanity? Injecting bleach, horse dewormer etc? Seems kinda innocent now it's Gulags. Also trump is important as MAGA's prophesied figurehead. So much of the movement's power came from Q conspiracy theories etc - that's all trump. MAGA's delusion rests on trump and if you remember, the masters pushed back on trump, but dropped it when MAGA insisted.

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                          @GutterPoetry

                          Vance is there to ascend the throne when required. The broligarchs decided Trump would be useful to them - bcz he'd do whatever they paid him to do. That's all.

                          They'll exchange him for Vance whenever it suits them. And if they can avoid an election, they will. "States of emergency, war powers", etc.

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                          • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                            @DrALJONES

                            IMO Thiel etc are smart - professional risk assessors who rose to the top. They wouldn't ordinarily bet on trump, which is why they weren't behind his first election win. This is the big bet for them - showing their hand to the world. If they lose, they lose everything. If they win they think they'll have 'true freedom' (complete control). What to chase after money?

                            trump has been manipulated by russia for years, all his tough man stuff is just an act that I doubt he believes.

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                            @GutterPoetry

                            Thiel, Musk, Murdoch, et al are not just fascists, they're highly likely psychopaths - power is everything.

                            They're running Trump bcz he's a useful psychopath. Until he isn't.

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                            • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                              @DrALJONES

                              IMO Thiel etc are smart - professional risk assessors who rose to the top. They wouldn't ordinarily bet on trump, which is why they weren't behind his first election win. This is the big bet for them - showing their hand to the world. If they lose, they lose everything. If they win they think they'll have 'true freedom' (complete control). What to chase after money?

                              trump has been manipulated by russia for years, all his tough man stuff is just an act that I doubt he believes.

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                              @GutterPoetry

                              "What to chase after money?"

                              For psychopaths, money is just a means to power.

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                              • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                                @DrALJONES

                                IMO Thiel etc are smart - professional risk assessors who rose to the top. They wouldn't ordinarily bet on trump, which is why they weren't behind his first election win. This is the big bet for them - showing their hand to the world. If they lose, they lose everything. If they win they think they'll have 'true freedom' (complete control). What to chase after money?

                                trump has been manipulated by russia for years, all his tough man stuff is just an act that I doubt he believes.

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                                @DrALJONES

                                I've known trump-like kids.They say anything(lie), do anything (cheat), simply refuse to admit 'defeat'. Any humility is fake, to get something. But they aren't really menacing, more like everything is a game and they have moral deficiencies and some pretty gaping flaws to hide (shame) - trump's facade and self-delusion of stern dignity but toddler behaviour.

                                Some people like trump because he seems 'real' (I've heard sane ppl say that). They can't see that he lies and is also dim.

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                                  @DrALJONES

                                  I've known trump-like kids.They say anything(lie), do anything (cheat), simply refuse to admit 'defeat'. Any humility is fake, to get something. But they aren't really menacing, more like everything is a game and they have moral deficiencies and some pretty gaping flaws to hide (shame) - trump's facade and self-delusion of stern dignity but toddler behaviour.

                                  Some people like trump because he seems 'real' (I've heard sane ppl say that). They can't see that he lies and is also dim.

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                                  @GutterPoetry

                                  To your point:

                                  https://www.juancole.com/2024/11/retribution-psychoanalysts-inequality.html

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