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  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

    @GutterPoetry

    I was talking about the 1970s. Chomsky, et al. Have amended to be clearer. Of course it was clear in Project25.

    Their entire project would fall over if people resisted in an organised way. Plenty of detail in the resistance literature.

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    @DrALJONES

    People are resisting, just not enough of them, and generally people are too afraid to lose what they have. They need to understand - that will happen anyway if this isn't stopped, plus a lot worse.

    trump is going to destroy the world (eg. global heating), or he will let the christofascists do so (to fulfil their prophecies). Maybe he believes his magical thinking about global heating being fake, but that doesn't matter. If every non-MAGA protested, would trump leave power?

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      @DrALJONES

      People are resisting, just not enough of them, and generally people are too afraid to lose what they have. They need to understand - that will happen anyway if this isn't stopped, plus a lot worse.

      trump is going to destroy the world (eg. global heating), or he will let the christofascists do so (to fulfil their prophecies). Maybe he believes his magical thinking about global heating being fake, but that doesn't matter. If every non-MAGA protested, would trump leave power?

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      #7

      @DrALJONES

      I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, just that I can't see a plausible path out of this and I usually can see that kind of thing, which either means there's something I dont know or there isn't a plausible path.

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      • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

        @DrALJONES

        People are resisting, just not enough of them, and generally people are too afraid to lose what they have. They need to understand - that will happen anyway if this isn't stopped, plus a lot worse.

        trump is going to destroy the world (eg. global heating), or he will let the christofascists do so (to fulfil their prophecies). Maybe he believes his magical thinking about global heating being fake, but that doesn't matter. If every non-MAGA protested, would trump leave power?

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        #8

        @GutterPoetry

        Yes.

        Ppl need to read the literature to grasp what comprises "organised" resistance. We can help by providing/boosting brief explanations & links to sources.

        Icymi, Tad Stoermer on what the opposition needs to do:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoR807KZIH4

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        • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

          @DrALJONES

          I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, just that I can't see a plausible path out of this and I usually can see that kind of thing, which either means there's something I dont know or there isn't a plausible path.

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          @GutterPoetry

          1. Trump is a mere puppet of the few hundred fascistic billionaires who go to Davos every year to decide how best to crush us even smaller.

          They don't even need him, which is why Vance was one of the billionaires' "requests".

          https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election

          2. Re "plausible", given that it depends on mass resistance, there's no guarantee of a way out. There's simply no decent alternative to keeping on fighting.

          We might not suceed. Or we might.

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          • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

            @GutterPoetry

            1. Trump is a mere puppet of the few hundred fascistic billionaires who go to Davos every year to decide how best to crush us even smaller.

            They don't even need him, which is why Vance was one of the billionaires' "requests".

            https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election

            2. Re "plausible", given that it depends on mass resistance, there's no guarantee of a way out. There's simply no decent alternative to keeping on fighting.

            We might not suceed. Or we might.

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            #10

            @GutterPoetry

            PS I find that "knowing thy enemy" as best you can does two things:

            Helps in deciding on strategy and tactics

            Helps allieviate a sense of hopelessness (they want us to despair so we'll give up)

            If you haven't done already, join a resistance group. Remember: resistance groups have different wings for different purposes, open & covert.

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            • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

              @GutterPoetry

              1. Trump is a mere puppet of the few hundred fascistic billionaires who go to Davos every year to decide how best to crush us even smaller.

              They don't even need him, which is why Vance was one of the billionaires' "requests".

              https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election

              2. Re "plausible", given that it depends on mass resistance, there's no guarantee of a way out. There's simply no decent alternative to keeping on fighting.

              We might not suceed. Or we might.

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              #11

              @DrALJONES
              1.Agreed except Vance is also trump's minder - the MAGA masters know what a disaster trump was last time... Remember all the petty insanity? Injecting bleach, horse dewormer etc? Seems kinda innocent now it's Gulags. Also trump is important as MAGA's prophesied figurehead. So much of the movement's power came from Q conspiracy theories etc - that's all trump. MAGA's delusion rests on trump and if you remember, the masters pushed back on trump, but dropped it when MAGA insisted.

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              • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                @DrALJONES
                1.Agreed except Vance is also trump's minder - the MAGA masters know what a disaster trump was last time... Remember all the petty insanity? Injecting bleach, horse dewormer etc? Seems kinda innocent now it's Gulags. Also trump is important as MAGA's prophesied figurehead. So much of the movement's power came from Q conspiracy theories etc - that's all trump. MAGA's delusion rests on trump and if you remember, the masters pushed back on trump, but dropped it when MAGA insisted.

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                @DrALJONES

                IMO Thiel etc are smart - professional risk assessors who rose to the top. They wouldn't ordinarily bet on trump, which is why they weren't behind his first election win. This is the big bet for them - showing their hand to the world. If they lose, they lose everything. If they win they think they'll have 'true freedom' (complete control). What to chase after money?

                trump has been manipulated by russia for years, all his tough man stuff is just an act that I doubt he believes.

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                • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                  @DrALJONES
                  1.Agreed except Vance is also trump's minder - the MAGA masters know what a disaster trump was last time... Remember all the petty insanity? Injecting bleach, horse dewormer etc? Seems kinda innocent now it's Gulags. Also trump is important as MAGA's prophesied figurehead. So much of the movement's power came from Q conspiracy theories etc - that's all trump. MAGA's delusion rests on trump and if you remember, the masters pushed back on trump, but dropped it when MAGA insisted.

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                  @GutterPoetry

                  Vance is there to ascend the throne when required. The broligarchs decided Trump would be useful to them - bcz he'd do whatever they paid him to do. That's all.

                  They'll exchange him for Vance whenever it suits them. And if they can avoid an election, they will. "States of emergency, war powers", etc.

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                  • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                    @DrALJONES

                    IMO Thiel etc are smart - professional risk assessors who rose to the top. They wouldn't ordinarily bet on trump, which is why they weren't behind his first election win. This is the big bet for them - showing their hand to the world. If they lose, they lose everything. If they win they think they'll have 'true freedom' (complete control). What to chase after money?

                    trump has been manipulated by russia for years, all his tough man stuff is just an act that I doubt he believes.

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                    @GutterPoetry

                    Thiel, Musk, Murdoch, et al are not just fascists, they're highly likely psychopaths - power is everything.

                    They're running Trump bcz he's a useful psychopath. Until he isn't.

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                    • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                      @DrALJONES

                      IMO Thiel etc are smart - professional risk assessors who rose to the top. They wouldn't ordinarily bet on trump, which is why they weren't behind his first election win. This is the big bet for them - showing their hand to the world. If they lose, they lose everything. If they win they think they'll have 'true freedom' (complete control). What to chase after money?

                      trump has been manipulated by russia for years, all his tough man stuff is just an act that I doubt he believes.

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                      @GutterPoetry

                      "What to chase after money?"

                      For psychopaths, money is just a means to power.

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                      • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                        @DrALJONES

                        IMO Thiel etc are smart - professional risk assessors who rose to the top. They wouldn't ordinarily bet on trump, which is why they weren't behind his first election win. This is the big bet for them - showing their hand to the world. If they lose, they lose everything. If they win they think they'll have 'true freedom' (complete control). What to chase after money?

                        trump has been manipulated by russia for years, all his tough man stuff is just an act that I doubt he believes.

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                        @DrALJONES

                        I've known trump-like kids.They say anything(lie), do anything (cheat), simply refuse to admit 'defeat'. Any humility is fake, to get something. But they aren't really menacing, more like everything is a game and they have moral deficiencies and some pretty gaping flaws to hide (shame) - trump's facade and self-delusion of stern dignity but toddler behaviour.

                        Some people like trump because he seems 'real' (I've heard sane ppl say that). They can't see that he lies and is also dim.

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                        • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                          @DrALJONES

                          I've known trump-like kids.They say anything(lie), do anything (cheat), simply refuse to admit 'defeat'. Any humility is fake, to get something. But they aren't really menacing, more like everything is a game and they have moral deficiencies and some pretty gaping flaws to hide (shame) - trump's facade and self-delusion of stern dignity but toddler behaviour.

                          Some people like trump because he seems 'real' (I've heard sane ppl say that). They can't see that he lies and is also dim.

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                          @GutterPoetry

                          To your point:

                          https://www.juancole.com/2024/11/retribution-psychoanalysts-inequality.html

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