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Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses?

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  • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

    Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )

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    #52

    @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I am not sure harassing the bottom line of a mega corporation with people who are just trying to make a living really surmounts to anything.

    Its like going to the clothes spinners in Bangladesh for the things H&M or Primark are doing.

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    • heidentweet@todon.euH heidentweet@todon.eu

      @grayrattus
      Managers are regular employees too. Don't think anyone can tell from their coats what their function in the company is.

      At least you agree that these glasses are useful for harassers.

      @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

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      #53

      @Heidentweet @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom people who come in with backpacks through the front door at companies at these scales are generally not managers.

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      • dantalion@fosstodon.orgD dantalion@fosstodon.org

        @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I am not sure harassing the bottom line of a mega corporation with people who are just trying to make a living really surmounts to anything.

        Its like going to the clothes spinners in Bangladesh for the things H&M or Primark are doing.

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        #54

        @dantalion The spinners in Bangladesh are much more removed than this. This is more like "Stop harassing the bottom line ICE agents who are just putting in a day's work enacting the administration's fascist ideals."

        @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

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        • grayrattus@mastodon.socialG grayrattus@mastodon.social

          @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom its cool but why are you harrasing employees? xD their work is already shit as they work for META.

          Its kind of like going to Booking and asking: "How do you like sponsoring genocide?!!".

          I think it would be better if you hunt for manager of whole META branch or something. Regular employees work for money just as we all do.

          #metaglasses #meta

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          #55

          @grayrattus Good point. They're just doing their jobs. That's a great defense that's worked before. @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

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          • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

            Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )

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            #56

            @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

            Is this like gun carrying theory? We know that guns exist and police are carrying them, like we know that police carry bodycams.
            Can we allow other people to carry guns and body cams?
            Or how to tell what happens with the recorded data?
            Who should have access?
            Who should be able to decide that?

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            • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

              @bitsoffreedom Meta does not want people to see this video. I repeat: Meta does NOT want people to see this video.

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              #57

              @Roelmaalderink I guess some Meta employees are shy. @bitsoffreedom

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              • grayrattus@mastodon.socialG grayrattus@mastodon.social

                @tyil @MichelPatrice "They could still live a very good life making a lot less money and having some moral values, if they actually cared." - if you have 3 kids, a mortgage 550 000 euros for 30 years and car in Amaterdam corporate jobs are the only options to cover expenses.

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                #58
                @grayrattus@mastodon.social @MichelPatrice@jasette.facil.services And of course living outside Amsterdam is not a life worth living.
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                • grayrattus@mastodon.socialG grayrattus@mastodon.social

                  @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom its cool but why are you harrasing employees? xD their work is already shit as they work for META.

                  Its kind of like going to Booking and asking: "How do you like sponsoring genocide?!!".

                  I think it would be better if you hunt for manager of whole META branch or something. Regular employees work for money just as we all do.

                  #metaglasses #meta

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                  #59

                  @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom this would typically not be people who have no choice where to work

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                  • mkoek@mastodon.nlM mkoek@mastodon.nl

                    @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom this would typically not be people who have no choice where to work

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                    #60

                    @mkoek @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom sure, especially that a lot of people from the video did not even speak Dutch XD They probably have soooo many oportunities to work outside of corporate jobs.

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                    • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

                      Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )

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                      #61

                      @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Schot in de roos! Ik had dit filmpje nog niet bekeken. Maar toen ik er over las op Teletekst (dat het van Instagram werd gehaald) ben ik het even gaan terugkijken. Betere reclame krijg je niet. Zelf kom ik nooit op FB en Instagram, ik moet zoiets dus via Teletekst lezen.

                      Nadeel is dat dit teveel reacties op Mastodon oplevert. Die ga ik (tegen m'n principes in) echt niet allemaal lezen. Nog even en ik moet A.I. inzetten voor een slap en sterk ingekort gemiddelde.

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                      • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

                        Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )

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                        #62

                        @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
                        Nou ja zeg: "Meta verwijderde de video van Instagram wegens vermeend pesten en intimidatie. Dat staat in een screenshot dat Bits of Freedom heeft gedeeld met het AD. De video staat nog wel op YouTube." https://www.nu.nl/tech/6410793/meta-verwijdert-satirische-video-roel-maalderink-over-ai-brillen-van-bedrijf.html

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                        • realkind@mastodon.socialR realkind@mastodon.social

                          @yuri
                          Es geht hier nicht um den Kapitalismus, nicht um Arbeiter die schikaniert werden, weil sie für den "bösen Kapitalismus" arbeiten, sondern um die Herstellung von Grundrechtsverletzenden Waren (Waffen, gegen Freiheits- und Menschenrechte) die sich die Gesellschaftskritik auch bei den herstellenden Mitarbeitern durch solche "Anspielungen" gefallen lassen müssen. Ja, belästigend für Mitarbeiter diese Blosstellung des Produktes durch sie zu ertragen, schlimmere Konzequenz für die Gesellschaft!

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                          #63

                          @Realkind Tut mir Leid, ich verstehe nicht was du sagen möchtest weil der Satz zu verschachtelt ist.

                          Das Video ist halt einfach nicht dieser Gotcha-Moment den es verkaufen möchte. Und selbst wenn, gäbe es andere Möglichkeiten den Punkt zu machen, als von irgendeiner random Mitarbeiterin den Arsch zu filmen und auf Fedi zu posten.

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                          • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                            @dantalion The spinners in Bangladesh are much more removed than this. This is more like "Stop harassing the bottom line ICE agents who are just putting in a day's work enacting the administration's fascist ideals."

                            @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

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                            #64

                            @xinit @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I think comparing meta workers to forces who threaten and bully people, exert phyisical violence, take people from their homes and deport them is a bit of hyperbole but sure.

                            Reality sits somewhere in between, that being said, try to find a job in tech that doesn't somehow contribute to technofascism. Its hard.

                            And no, there isn't enough space for everyone in tech to just start teaching or something like that.

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                            • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

                              Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )

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                              #65

                              @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

                              Nu zelfs bij de NOS:

                              https://nos.nl/artikel/2632271-meta-haalt-satirische-video-roel-maalderink-over-camerabril-offline

                              @schellevis waarom maken jullie in dit bericht melding dat het filmpje "nog wel op Youtube te zien is" en niet bijvoorbeeld ook hier? Het zou echt helpen als mainstream media bigtech wat minder credits zou geven.

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                              • tyil@fedi.tyil.nlT tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
                                @grayrattus@mastodon.social @MichelPatrice@jasette.facil.services And of course living outside Amsterdam is not a life worth living.
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                                #66

                                @tyil @grayrattus @MichelPatrice A mortgage of 550000 euro is not in Amsterdam. 😉

                                But every job is a choice. Being a soldier, a butcher is a choice. So why not working at Meta. Or, maybe, they just dont care.

                                Please read the books of Jan Eggers about the Circle. He is so on point.

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                                • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

                                  @bitsoffreedom Meta does not want people to see this video. I repeat: Meta does NOT want people to see this video.

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                                  #67

                                  @Roelmaalderink Bedankt voor dit initiatief, naast dat het heel effectief is om dit op deze manier te doen, heb ik ook hartelijk gelachen om te inhoud en probeer ik het te verspreiden. @bitsoffreedom

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                                  • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

                                    @bitsoffreedom Meta does not want people to see this video. I repeat: Meta does NOT want people to see this video.

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                                    #68

                                    @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom drie hoeraatjes voor het Streisand Effect!

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                                    • si2mev@mastodon.socialS si2mev@mastodon.social

                                      @tyil @grayrattus @MichelPatrice A mortgage of 550000 euro is not in Amsterdam. 😉

                                      But every job is a choice. Being a soldier, a butcher is a choice. So why not working at Meta. Or, maybe, they just dont care.

                                      Please read the books of Jan Eggers about the Circle. He is so on point.

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                                      #69
                                      @si2mev@mastodon.social @grayrattus@mastodon.social @MichelPatrice@jasette.facil.services I didn't come up with the number, I don't know how much mortgages are over there right now. But I do know from first-hand experience you can get a way lower mortgage right outside Amsterdam, and you can halve it by moving even further.
                                      But every job is a choice
                                      Correct, and with every choice there can be consequences. If you're in the army, and it turns out the army is shooting children for fun, for instance, you can expect some people to dislike this. This may result in you getting questions about the situation. You can cry "I didn't know" or "I'm just doing my job", or you can be an adult.
                                      Or, maybe, they just dont care.
                                      They just don't care about others specifically. This is what I argued earlier in the thread, as it seems most likely.
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                                      • grayrattus@mastodon.socialG grayrattus@mastodon.social

                                        @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom and this gives you permission to harass them? What if they are not proud of their work and only do it for money as there is no other job on the market?

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                                        #70

                                        @grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

                                        ”Won’t someone think of the fascism enablers?!”

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                                        • roelmaalderink@mastodon.socialR roelmaalderink@mastodon.social

                                          Do Meta employees even like their own Meta glasses? (In collaboration with @bitsoffreedom )

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                                          #71

                                          @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom #Alt4You A man is using Meta glasses in the street right in front of Meta offices (probably in the Netherlands since the video is in Dutch). he tries to discuss with Meta employees but most of them flee away asking not to be filmed.

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