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  • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

    @jon Option 2! It‘s a record attempt after all, so give us some thrill 🙂

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    #137

    @sebwilken @jon Exactly!

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    • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

      @stefanlindbohm @jon @tml @Jonas_Bostrom Unfortunately they do it all the time on the Haparanda line. Something deeply wrong there.

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      #138

      @sebwilken Might be the different rolling stock then. And the fact that they have a single trainset running back and forth. Lots more sensitive.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?

        It currently looks like it will be a train...

        @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm wdyt?

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        #139

        So I just called Norrtåg

        There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus... 🤔

        So how bad is this power line failure?

        @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm

        stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS gufo@mastodon.nuG nafmo@social.vivaldi.netN jon@gruene.socialJ nemobis@mamot.frN 6 Replies Last reply
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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          So I just called Norrtåg

          There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus... 🤔

          So how bad is this power line failure?

          @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm

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          #140

          @jon Can be a press of a button or a full replacement of equipment 🤷🏻‍♂️

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          • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

            @jon Can be a press of a button or a full replacement of equipment 🤷🏻‍♂️

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            #141

            @stefanlindbohm Is there any website that explains this in any way? If this were DB at least I would half know how serious it was!

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Right then, this post outlines my options

              1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections

              2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey

              Input welcome! I lean towards 2)

              https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/

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              #142

              @jon Do the Eurovision thing and the ask the public to vote on a paying number.

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                So I just called Norrtåg

                There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus... 🤔

                So how bad is this power line failure?

                @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm

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                #143

                @jon Trafikverket estimates that it will take all day to fix. Could of course be just a pessimistic estimate, but it doesn't sound promising for 7185.

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  @stefanlindbohm Is there any website that explains this in any way? If this were DB at least I would half know how serious it was!

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                  #144

                  @jon The closest that is public is this below link.

                  It mentions an electrical fault between Boden - Murjek which is mainly on Malmbanan, but it includes the short section where Haparandabanan branches off. So maybe it’s the one?

                  Estimated resolved tonight, so that’s not promising if so…

                  https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage

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                  • gufo@mastodon.nuG gufo@mastodon.nu

                    @jon Trafikverket estimates that it will take all day to fix. Could of course be just a pessimistic estimate, but it doesn't sound promising for 7185.

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                    #145

                    @gufo Hmm, but Murjek is the *other line* - towards Kiruna. Or is all of Boden disrupted? 🤔

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                    • gufo@mastodon.nuG gufo@mastodon.nu

                      @jon Trafikverket estimates that it will take all day to fix. Could of course be just a pessimistic estimate, but it doesn't sound promising for 7185.

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                      #146

                      @jon OTOH this might be an unrelated fault: Murjek is west of Boden, so I guess it depends on whether Boden station has power or not. Tricky.

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                      • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                        @jon The closest that is public is this below link.

                        It mentions an electrical fault between Boden - Murjek which is mainly on Malmbanan, but it includes the short section where Haparandabanan branches off. So maybe it’s the one?

                        Estimated resolved tonight, so that’s not promising if so…

                        https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage

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                        #147

                        @jon If we have someone working at an operator, they have access to internal systems which is similar to the DB ones in Germany, with more detailed info not available to the public. I don’t have this access :((

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                        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                          @jon The closest that is public is this below link.

                          It mentions an electrical fault between Boden - Murjek which is mainly on Malmbanan, but it includes the short section where Haparandabanan branches off. So maybe it’s the one?

                          Estimated resolved tonight, so that’s not promising if so…

                          https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage

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                          #148

                          @stefanlindbohm Has anything else left Boden I wonder?

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Right then, this post outlines my options

                            1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections

                            2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey

                            Input welcome! I lean towards 2)

                            https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/

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                            #149

                            @jon 2. Stay pure.

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              So I just called Norrtåg

                              There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus... 🤔

                              So how bad is this power line failure?

                              @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm

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                              #150

                              @jon @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Those things take everything from a few hours to half a day to fix, down south where there are a lot of trains.

                              Up north off the main lines, who knows. Depends how long they have to travel to get to the troubled spot.

                              The rail replacement taxi will be in the Interrail system, so should be fine for the record attempt?

                              Anyway, the worst timing possible...

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                              • gufo@mastodon.nuG gufo@mastodon.nu

                                @jon OTOH this might be an unrelated fault: Murjek is west of Boden, so I guess it depends on whether Boden station has power or not. Tricky.

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                                #151

                                @gufo Right. That's what's hard to estimate!

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  @stefanlindbohm Is there any website that explains this in any way? If this were DB at least I would half know how serious it was!

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                                  #152

                                  @jon A replacement bus is scheduled at 0741, it even shows the registration number. If you change your rules. https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/tag/?Train=7183-TR-5068-7181-20260908

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                                  • interrailinfosvenska@mastodonsweden.seI interrailinfosvenska@mastodonsweden.se

                                    @jon A replacement bus is scheduled at 0741, it even shows the registration number. If you change your rules. https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/tag/?Train=7183-TR-5068-7181-20260908

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                                    #153

                                    @interrailinfosvenska Yes, I have that on the screens here!

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?

                                      It currently looks like it will be a train...

                                      @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm wdyt?

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                                      #154

                                      @jon @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm The inbound trip is listed as "await time", so the chances of it arriving Haparanda in time to turn around seem slim.

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        @stefanlindbohm Has anything else left Boden I wonder?

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                                        #155

                                        @jon There’s a SJ train schedules to leave just about now. But it arrived and departs from/to the south. So might not be affected depending on how the power sections are arranged.

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                                        • nafmo@social.vivaldi.netN nafmo@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @jon @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Those things take everything from a few hours to half a day to fix, down south where there are a lot of trains.

                                          Up north off the main lines, who knows. Depends how long they have to travel to get to the troubled spot.

                                          The rail replacement taxi will be in the Interrail system, so should be fine for the record attempt?

                                          Anyway, the worst timing possible...

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                                          #156

                                          @nafmo @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm but the problem is between Boden and Murjek: https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage The question then is WHERE, and if this impacts the small part of the track exiting Boden that the line to Haparanda takes?

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