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First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop!

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  • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

    First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

    #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

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    #15

    @danyork I run an app on my phone that sounds an alarm whenever meta glasses come near me.

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    • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

      First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

      #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

      lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #16

      @danyork

      If this was my shop, I would keep the sign but add an "except blind customers" note to it. Someone doing price research (an adverse party) has lots of cheaper and harder to detect spy cam options.

      Allowing this use would however require having nothing in the shop that could put me or another person in danger if passed to Meta.

      Use of these glasses by a sighted person I consider absolutely intolerable. On the other hand, any thing that can pass visual data to someone who has lost use of their eyes might be the difference between being their able to continue their life or not.

      Someone needs to come up with a hack to allow blind folks to use these as eyes without passing data around them to Meta, who is sure to abuse it.

      This could be done either of two ways. One is to hack the firmware to connect to an activist-owned server that does not store user data instead of Meta. Store only maps from OpenStreetMap etc, and process the video with a program that can identify clear corridors indoors and send that data back to the user. Do not store it.

      The other approach would be to use a connection to a local computer with enough processing power to turn raw video into navigational directions. Hopefully a laptop in a backpack could not handle that.

      Problem with a special version of these glasses sold for use by the blind would be sale (and thus PRICING) as "medical devices." Nobody would be able to afford them. Also zero advantage if the data is still handled by a corporate server.

      A hacked set of these on the other hand, connected to a phone or laptop to run the software instead of sending it to Meta, and maybe inscribed text on the glasses saying "I am blind-these are my eyes" could do wonders.

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      • starraven@mastodon.scotS starraven@mastodon.scot

        @danyork

        Classic spy pen it is, then.

        Sorry, but in this day and age, evidence is protection.

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        #17

        @starraven @danyork If you brought it into a public restroom to record you might even make a sex offender registry.

        How about respecting private property and following the rules of the establishment. Or is that too challenging.

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        • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

          First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

          #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

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          #18

          @danyork a simple “no assholes” sign does the same thing

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          • spirit@cybernetic.monsterS spirit@cybernetic.monster

            @starraven @danyork If you brought it into a public restroom to record you might even make a sex offender registry.

            How about respecting private property and following the rules of the establishment. Or is that too challenging.

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            #19

            @Spirit @danyork

            If an establishment is against me taking precautions against their potential harms towards me, they definitely don't have to worry about having me as a customer.

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            • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

              First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

              #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

              frang@meow.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #20

              @danyork good.. shun the next (and all) iteration(s) of glassholes.

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              • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

                First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

                #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

                feliks@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #21

                @danyork there's a nice ISO 7010 P044

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                • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

                  First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

                  #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

                  sh41@androiddev.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #22

                  @danyork if you've been acting long enough, you do remember the "Glassholes" when Google glass was originally unveiled back in 2013

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                  • feliks@chaos.socialF feliks@chaos.social

                    @danyork there's a nice ISO 7010 P044

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                    #23

                    @danyork available on wikipedia

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_7010

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                    • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

                      First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

                      #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

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                      #24

                      @danyork We obviously don't frequent the same strip clubs

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                      • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

                        First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

                        #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

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                        #25

                        @danyork I'd feel more comfortable seeing a fellow customer in a restaurant with holstered pistol than I would than one wearing those panopticon goggles. safer

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                        • mazigazi@dobbs.townM mazigazi@dobbs.town

                          @danyork a simple “no assholes” sign does the same thing

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                          #26

                          @mazigazi @danyork
                          I thought I read *MAGA GLASSES* which would be the same thing

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                          • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

                            First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

                            #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

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                            #27

                            @danyork FAcebook was founded on the idea of being creepy as fuck and stalking folk.

                            Creepy as fuck.

                            Mark is a voyeur, always has been.

                            So this is just more of the same.

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                            • frang@meow.socialF frang@meow.social

                              @danyork good.. shun the next (and all) iteration(s) of glassholes.

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                              #28

                              @frang @danyork I agree with the sentiment BUT do consider that tech like this is utterly *transformative* for those with visual impairments. Was speaking with a guy the other day with a form of macular degeneration and it had given him so much. Not that that’s why they exist, but let’s not be ignorant of the minority for which these can be incredible.

                              Now if only we could get the tech from places that aren’t abusive of the data collected..

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                              • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                @danyork

                                If this was my shop, I would keep the sign but add an "except blind customers" note to it. Someone doing price research (an adverse party) has lots of cheaper and harder to detect spy cam options.

                                Allowing this use would however require having nothing in the shop that could put me or another person in danger if passed to Meta.

                                Use of these glasses by a sighted person I consider absolutely intolerable. On the other hand, any thing that can pass visual data to someone who has lost use of their eyes might be the difference between being their able to continue their life or not.

                                Someone needs to come up with a hack to allow blind folks to use these as eyes without passing data around them to Meta, who is sure to abuse it.

                                This could be done either of two ways. One is to hack the firmware to connect to an activist-owned server that does not store user data instead of Meta. Store only maps from OpenStreetMap etc, and process the video with a program that can identify clear corridors indoors and send that data back to the user. Do not store it.

                                The other approach would be to use a connection to a local computer with enough processing power to turn raw video into navigational directions. Hopefully a laptop in a backpack could not handle that.

                                Problem with a special version of these glasses sold for use by the blind would be sale (and thus PRICING) as "medical devices." Nobody would be able to afford them. Also zero advantage if the data is still handled by a corporate server.

                                A hacked set of these on the other hand, connected to a phone or laptop to run the software instead of sending it to Meta, and maybe inscribed text on the glasses saying "I am blind-these are my eyes" could do wonders.

                                rasta@zeroes.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #29

                                @LukefromDC @danyork

                                There already is an APP to help the blind with what is in front of them, but it's not fed to a META server. once Meta sold your data once, paid the fine, and did it again, why would anyone trust them ever? There are existing APPS. I get anonymous BE MY EYES messages, like, are these pants clean, or which is the button for this feature?
                                I have no idea who, or where I am helping, I just answer them when they are directed to me, including a description of their surroundings. Don't sell your soul to META, and Cambridge Analytical And Palantir
                                and police depts, or ICE agents..

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                                • danyork@mastodon.socialD danyork@mastodon.social

                                  First time seeing a “NO META GLASSES” sign in the door of a shop! I’m not surprised… and I expect we might see more of these kind of things in the years ahead.

                                  #Meta #MetaGlasses #AR #privacy #surveillance #Vermont

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                                  #30

                                  @danyork people buying these are ot considering such circumstances where their (precious) consumer choices aren't sacrosanct to all others
                                  And now they're getting these things with prescription lenses, so removing them becomes onerous and "unreasonable"

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