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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

    It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

    Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

    #FediTips

    clintonanderson@universeodon.comC feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM 3geek14@kind.social3 james@bne.socialJ 6 Replies Last reply
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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

      It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

      ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

      Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

      #FediTips

      clintonanderson@universeodon.comC This user is from outside of this forum
      clintonanderson@universeodon.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @FediTips

      So wait.... If I have an old phone that I can leave plugged in, that I can leave connected to WiFi, I can run my own instance????

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      • clintonanderson@universeodon.comC clintonanderson@universeodon.com

        @FediTips

        So wait.... If I have an old phone that I can leave plugged in, that I can leave connected to WiFi, I can run my own instance????

        feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @ClintonAnderson

        No, this is just a way of using your server's website the way you would use an app.

        You can find out more in the guide 🙂

        https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

          It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

          ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

          Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

          #FediTips

          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

          Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

          Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

          Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

          longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.placeL feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF coloco@mstdn.socialC mellowfish@ruby.socialM e11bits@mastodon.socialE 5 Replies Last reply
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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

            Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

            Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

            Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

            longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
            longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @FediTips I develop for iOS the way Jobs intended - via mobile-compatible websites.

            Apps are awful and have way too much info access.

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            • longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.placeL longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @FediTips I develop for iOS the way Jobs intended - via mobile-compatible websites.

              Apps are awful and have way too much info access.

              feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @Longplay_Games

              Yeah, that's the other reason you see "use us through our app" notices, companies want to harvest personal data.

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

                It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

                ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

                Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

                #FediTips

                mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
                mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @FediTips

                Do web apps utilize privacy protection and ad blocker plug-ins like Privacy Badger?

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                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                  @FediTips

                  Do web apps utilize privacy protection and ad blocker plug-ins like Privacy Badger?

                  feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @mastodonmigration

                  I don't think so, but you can check the website on your normal browser to see how many pings you get in software like PB, Ublock Origin etc.

                  For Fediverse websites, they normally produce no pings at all so the privacy/security software isn't needed for them.

                  Web apps have much less access to your phone's data so they tend to be inherently safer anyway. That's why some companies push their app store apps so heavily instead of websites, they want your data.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

                    Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

                    Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

                    Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

                    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    p.p.s. By their web-based design, web apps have much less access to the data stored on your phone. It's much harder to spy on people from web apps.

                    That's why so many companies try so hard to push you away from their websites and towards their app store apps, because app store apps make it much easier for them to spy on you.

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      @mastodonmigration

                      I don't think so, but you can check the website on your normal browser to see how many pings you get in software like PB, Ublock Origin etc.

                      For Fediverse websites, they normally produce no pings at all so the privacy/security software isn't needed for them.

                      Web apps have much less access to your phone's data so they tend to be inherently safer anyway. That's why some companies push their app store apps so heavily instead of websites, they want your data.

                      mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @FediTips

                      OK, but wondering if you click on a link in the web app, does it then fire off your default browser including any plug-ins? So that would be fine. Or is it some default browser without the plugins?

                      mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF 2 Replies Last reply
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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

                        Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

                        Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

                        Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

                        coloco@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                        coloco@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @FediTips Apple no deja poner F Droid en móvil

                        Android/Google si

                        Algo se diferencian no?

                        Por que eso?

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                        • coloco@mstdn.socialC coloco@mstdn.social

                          @FediTips Apple no deja poner F Droid en móvil

                          Android/Google si

                          Algo se diferencian no?

                          Por que eso?

                          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
                          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @coloco

                          I think there were some technical barriers but @fdroidorg would be able to give a proper answer?

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            @FediTips

                            OK, but wondering if you click on a link in the web app, does it then fire off your default browser including any plug-ins? So that would be fine. Or is it some default browser without the plugins?

                            mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @FediTips

                            No experience with web apps, but just want to say that simply using the web interface (browsing to the instance web address) does everything and is a very good experience. Have never found the need for anything else.

                            You can save the shortcut link to your desktop (PC) or homescreen (mobile) and access your account with one click.

                            Nothing against web apps, but this works just fine, and always the latest software. KISS principle.

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              @FediTips

                              OK, but wondering if you click on a link in the web app, does it then fire off your default browser including any plug-ins? So that would be fine. Or is it some default browser without the plugins?

                              feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @mastodonmigration

                              It does exactly what the app store app would do and open it in a browser window.

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                              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                @FediTips

                                No experience with web apps, but just want to say that simply using the web interface (browsing to the instance web address) does everything and is a very good experience. Have never found the need for anything else.

                                You can save the shortcut link to your desktop (PC) or homescreen (mobile) and access your account with one click.

                                Nothing against web apps, but this works just fine, and always the latest software. KISS principle.

                                feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @mastodonmigration

                                The web app IS the web interface, but packaged in a way that lets it be used more like an app store app (full screen interface, notifications etc). If you enjoy the web interface you will enjoy the web app 🙂

                                It also doesn't interfere with your browsing sessions on your main browser, it is a totally separate session and you can leave it logged in.

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

                                  It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

                                  ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

                                  Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

                                  #FediTips

                                  3geek14@kind.social3 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @FediTips the thing that's kept me on Tusky instead of the PWA is remembering where I left off. I follow few enough people and tags that I'm able to read it all, and I try to do so. Do you know whether there's a way to keep track of where I am in my feed with the PWA?

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                                  • 3geek14@kind.social3 3geek14@kind.social

                                    @FediTips the thing that's kept me on Tusky instead of the PWA is remembering where I left off. I follow few enough people and tags that I'm able to read it all, and I try to do so. Do you know whether there's a way to keep track of where I am in my feed with the PWA?

                                    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @3geek14

                                    That is a fair point, on the website/web app you just scroll down your timeline until you get to where you left off, but you have to remember where you were to know when you've reached this point.

                                    As far as I know this is the only way to view the main timeline on the web version.

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                                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                      p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

                                      Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

                                      Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

                                      Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

                                      mellowfish@ruby.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @FediTips with respect. As a software developer who has done both native and web, you don’t hear about web apps because they are a pain to build, don’t really add a lot of value, and approaching zero people ever install them. It’s a pipe dream.

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                                      • mellowfish@ruby.socialM mellowfish@ruby.social

                                        @FediTips with respect. As a software developer who has done both native and web, you don’t hear about web apps because they are a pain to build, don’t really add a lot of value, and approaching zero people ever install them. It’s a pipe dream.

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                                        #19

                                        @mellowfish

                                        They add lots of value, for example the Mastodon and PeerTube apps have lots more features than their official apps.

                                        So often when I'm helping people use Mastodon, I have to tell them to use the website or web app because the official app store app is missing a feature.

                                        They also have fewer restrictions because they don't have to obey app store rules on responsibility for instance content.

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

                                          Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

                                          Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

                                          Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

                                          e11bits@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @FediTips I keep hoping the developer verification #Google tries to force on #android can still be averted. But in any case, I would love to see the idea of #PWA (progressive web apps) getting a a big boost, as a result of this BS move. But maybe the next step is, that #Google sides with #Apple in another attempt to kill #PWA ...

                                          https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Guides/What_is_a_progressive_web_app

                                          #FDroid #sideload #digitalautonomy #webdev #appdev

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