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  • longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.placeL longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @FediTips I develop for iOS the way Jobs intended - via mobile-compatible websites.

    Apps are awful and have way too much info access.

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    #6

    @Longplay_Games

    Yeah, that's the other reason you see "use us through our app" notices, companies want to harvest personal data.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

      It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

      ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

      Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

      #FediTips

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      #7

      @FediTips

      Do web apps utilize privacy protection and ad blocker plug-ins like Privacy Badger?

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      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

        @FediTips

        Do web apps utilize privacy protection and ad blocker plug-ins like Privacy Badger?

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        #8

        @mastodonmigration

        I don't think so, but you can check the website on your normal browser to see how many pings you get in software like PB, Ublock Origin etc.

        For Fediverse websites, they normally produce no pings at all so the privacy/security software isn't needed for them.

        Web apps have much less access to your phone's data so they tend to be inherently safer anyway. That's why some companies push their app store apps so heavily instead of websites, they want your data.

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

          Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

          Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

          Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

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          #9

          p.p.s. By their web-based design, web apps have much less access to the data stored on your phone. It's much harder to spy on people from web apps.

          That's why so many companies try so hard to push you away from their websites and towards their app store apps, because app store apps make it much easier for them to spy on you.

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            @mastodonmigration

            I don't think so, but you can check the website on your normal browser to see how many pings you get in software like PB, Ublock Origin etc.

            For Fediverse websites, they normally produce no pings at all so the privacy/security software isn't needed for them.

            Web apps have much less access to your phone's data so they tend to be inherently safer anyway. That's why some companies push their app store apps so heavily instead of websites, they want your data.

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            #10

            @FediTips

            OK, but wondering if you click on a link in the web app, does it then fire off your default browser including any plug-ins? So that would be fine. Or is it some default browser without the plugins?

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

              Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

              Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

              Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

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              #11

              @FediTips Apple no deja poner F Droid en móvil

              Android/Google si

              Algo se diferencian no?

              Por que eso?

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              • coloco@mstdn.socialC coloco@mstdn.social

                @FediTips Apple no deja poner F Droid en móvil

                Android/Google si

                Algo se diferencian no?

                Por que eso?

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                #12

                @coloco

                I think there were some technical barriers but @fdroidorg would be able to give a proper answer?

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                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                  @FediTips

                  OK, but wondering if you click on a link in the web app, does it then fire off your default browser including any plug-ins? So that would be fine. Or is it some default browser without the plugins?

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                  #13

                  @FediTips

                  No experience with web apps, but just want to say that simply using the web interface (browsing to the instance web address) does everything and is a very good experience. Have never found the need for anything else.

                  You can save the shortcut link to your desktop (PC) or homescreen (mobile) and access your account with one click.

                  Nothing against web apps, but this works just fine, and always the latest software. KISS principle.

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                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                    @FediTips

                    OK, but wondering if you click on a link in the web app, does it then fire off your default browser including any plug-ins? So that would be fine. Or is it some default browser without the plugins?

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                    #14

                    @mastodonmigration

                    It does exactly what the app store app would do and open it in a browser window.

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                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                      @FediTips

                      No experience with web apps, but just want to say that simply using the web interface (browsing to the instance web address) does everything and is a very good experience. Have never found the need for anything else.

                      You can save the shortcut link to your desktop (PC) or homescreen (mobile) and access your account with one click.

                      Nothing against web apps, but this works just fine, and always the latest software. KISS principle.

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                      #15

                      @mastodonmigration

                      The web app IS the web interface, but packaged in a way that lets it be used more like an app store app (full screen interface, notifications etc). If you enjoy the web interface you will enjoy the web app 🙂

                      It also doesn't interfere with your browsing sessions on your main browser, it is a totally separate session and you can leave it logged in.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

                        It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

                        ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

                        Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

                        #FediTips

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                        #16

                        @FediTips the thing that's kept me on Tusky instead of the PWA is remembering where I left off. I follow few enough people and tags that I'm able to read it all, and I try to do so. Do you know whether there's a way to keep track of where I am in my feed with the PWA?

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                        • 3geek14@kind.social3 3geek14@kind.social

                          @FediTips the thing that's kept me on Tusky instead of the PWA is remembering where I left off. I follow few enough people and tags that I'm able to read it all, and I try to do so. Do you know whether there's a way to keep track of where I am in my feed with the PWA?

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                          #17

                          @3geek14

                          That is a fair point, on the website/web app you just scroll down your timeline until you get to where you left off, but you have to remember where you were to know when you've reached this point.

                          As far as I know this is the only way to view the main timeline on the web version.

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

                            Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

                            Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

                            Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

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                            #18

                            @FediTips with respect. As a software developer who has done both native and web, you don’t hear about web apps because they are a pain to build, don’t really add a lot of value, and approaching zero people ever install them. It’s a pipe dream.

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                            • mellowfish@ruby.socialM mellowfish@ruby.social

                              @FediTips with respect. As a software developer who has done both native and web, you don’t hear about web apps because they are a pain to build, don’t really add a lot of value, and approaching zero people ever install them. It’s a pipe dream.

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                              #19

                              @mellowfish

                              They add lots of value, for example the Mastodon and PeerTube apps have lots more features than their official apps.

                              So often when I'm helping people use Mastodon, I have to tell them to use the website or web app because the official app store app is missing a feature.

                              They also have fewer restrictions because they don't have to obey app store rules on responsibility for instance content.

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

                                Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

                                Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

                                Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

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                                #20

                                @FediTips I keep hoping the developer verification #Google tries to force on #android can still be averted. But in any case, I would love to see the idea of #PWA (progressive web apps) getting a a big boost, as a result of this BS move. But maybe the next step is, that #Google sides with #Apple in another attempt to kill #PWA ...

                                https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Guides/What_is_a_progressive_web_app

                                #FDroid #sideload #digitalautonomy #webdev #appdev

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

                                  It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

                                  ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

                                  Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

                                  #FediTips

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                                  #21

                                  @FediTips You should add Phanpy to the list of web apps there - an excellent Mastodon client that works brilliantly. @phanpy has lots more info.

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                                  • james@bne.socialJ james@bne.social

                                    @FediTips You should add Phanpy to the list of web apps there - an excellent Mastodon client that works brilliantly. @phanpy has lots more info.

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                                    #22

                                    @james

                                    I'm trying to keep that particular article simple by just listing the server types whose website can be installed as a PWA rather than listing all the third party web clients.

                                    However, I do have Phanpy and Elk listed on the general "which app should I use?" page: https://fedi.tips/which-apps-can-i-use-should-i-use-the-official-app-or-a-third-party-app/ 🙂

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                                    • e11bits@mastodon.socialE e11bits@mastodon.social

                                      @FediTips I keep hoping the developer verification #Google tries to force on #android can still be averted. But in any case, I would love to see the idea of #PWA (progressive web apps) getting a a big boost, as a result of this BS move. But maybe the next step is, that #Google sides with #Apple in another attempt to kill #PWA ...

                                      https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Guides/What_is_a_progressive_web_app

                                      #FDroid #sideload #digitalautonomy #webdev #appdev

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                                      #23

                                      @e11bits

                                      We can only hope PWAs become a sort of escape route for people who care about privacy and independence from big tech corporations.

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        Did you know you can install Fediverse servers' websites as apps on your phone? These "web apps" let you have the most fully-featured versions of Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc as apps on your home screen, including notifications, full screen interfaces etc.

                                        It's very easy to install web apps on Android and iPhone/iPad, full instructions in this guide:

                                        ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-install-web-apps-for-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

                                        Most web apps have more features than app store apps, due to restrictions in app store rules.

                                        #FediTips

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                                        #24

                                        @FediTips

                                        Hello, with ios 26 the playback of videos in the Mastodon web app no longer works for me. Do you know the problem and is there a solution for it?

                                        Hallo, mit iOS 26 funktioniert das abspielen von Videos in der Mastodon Webapp bei mir nicht mehr. Kennt Ihr das Problem und gibt es eine Lösung dafür?

                                        #Feditips #Mastodonapp

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                                        • onbox@mastodon.socialO onbox@mastodon.social

                                          @FediTips

                                          Hello, with ios 26 the playback of videos in the Mastodon web app no longer works for me. Do you know the problem and is there a solution for it?

                                          Hallo, mit iOS 26 funktioniert das abspielen von Videos in der Mastodon Webapp bei mir nicht mehr. Kennt Ihr das Problem und gibt es eine Lösung dafür?

                                          #Feditips #Mastodonapp

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                                          #25

                                          @OnBox

                                          Is there an error message when you try to play the video?

                                          What kind of videos are these, are they embedded from PeerTube or YouTube? Or are they videos attached to a post?

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