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  3. I’ve been working on this for a while, but let’s make it official: I started a little Tumblr-like microblog about software craft and quality!

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  • dokas@mas.toD dokas@mas.to

    @gosha @mwichary I can’t cite anything specific (too long ago, and before my time) but in the beginning when things were more amorphous it wasn’t entirely certainly that photos would be the whole show. “Social networks” were just beginning, and even Flickr let you list your favorite books, movies, etc back then. Setting up /people/ probably made sense for a lot of possible things to come.

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    #59

    @dokas @mwichary Thank you, that does make sense! It's very interesting to learn about how things/formats we now take for granted evolved and were solidified back then.

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    • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

      In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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      #60

      @mwichary call me a middle-aged codger but I still type urls by hand and wince slightly when people put a site’s name into google rather than just typing whateveritis.com

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      • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

        In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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        #61

        @mwichary True to that. Reminds me I always wondered why no API documentation existed on Dropbox/Google Drive/Nextcloud URL’s. I had to reverse engineer them. Apparently API's should be REST…

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        • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

          In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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          #62

          @mwichary It makes me happy to see that others care about URL.

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            #63

            @Ember Yeah, I agree that part is a bit muddy where every scheme has pros and cons. This one seems to indicate there is more hierarchy than there actually is…

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            • mez@mastodon.nzM mez@mastodon.nz

              @mwichary Regarding the note about adding a human friendly slug to the end of a URL, do you have a thought or preference to putting that part before the unique id?

              flickr.com/mwichary/sets/alishan-forest-railway-72177720330077904

              On an app I run I went with that style so the all the human readable bits could be typed and autocompleted. It does seem to be a little harder to read since it’s in the middle of the text though.

              For example: https://app.mythic.nz/book/public-storybooks/sharable-public-storybooks/v4dUmg8Jjk6LmQYQlqy6Pw

              `public-storybooks` is the collection slug, and `sharable-public-storybooks` is the page title slug.

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              #64

              @mez Good question. I don’t know! I naturally put it at the front but that might be because I only saw it that way. Interesting point about autocomplete!

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              • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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                #65

                @mwichary The idea of URLs as user interface elements is such a good take. I've seen some people use URLs as design/communications elements as well, like Jessica Hische:

                https://www.jessicahische.is/thinkingthoughts

                https://www.jessicahische.is/working

                https://jessicahische.is/anoversharer

                I love that approach. Modern browsers and preview cards often obscure URLs, but people still see these things; printed materials, links in emails, etc.

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                • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                  In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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                  #66

                  @mwichary this clean URI scheme is also why FlickrClient.py could support 68 methods of the Flickr API in just 48 lines of code. The core magic:

                  def __getattr__(self, method):
                  def method(_self=self, _method=method, **params):
                  _method = _method.replace("_", ".")
                  url = HOST + PATH + "?method=%s&%s&api_key=%s" %
                  (_method, urlencode(params), self.api_key)
                  try: rsp = xmltramp.load(url)
                  except: return None
                  return _self._parseResponse(rsp)
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                  • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                    In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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                    #67

                    @mwichary Much agreement!

                    There is plenty of prior art, some examples that I particularly remember:
                    - 2010: https://warpspire.com/posts/url-design/
                    - 2017: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/urls-are-ui
                    - 2018: https://alexpounds.com/blog/2018/12/29/four-cool-urls

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                    • polarbirke@indieweb.socialP polarbirke@indieweb.social

                      @mwichary Much agreement!

                      There is plenty of prior art, some examples that I particularly remember:
                      - 2010: https://warpspire.com/posts/url-design/
                      - 2017: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/urls-are-ui
                      - 2018: https://alexpounds.com/blog/2018/12/29/four-cool-urls

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                      #68

                      @polarbirke Thanks for sharing!

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                      • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                        In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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                        #69

                        @mwichary I love the Flickr url pattern. You could not find a collections link with knowing the pattern.

                        I am fine with the unique id as shorter url. Also knowing where it is in a downloaded photo allows the secret url trick to find the original page https://cogdogblog.com/2015/10/flickr-trickr/

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                        • cogdog@cosocial.caC cogdog@cosocial.ca

                          @mwichary I love the Flickr url pattern. You could not find a collections link with knowing the pattern.

                          I am fine with the unique id as shorter url. Also knowing where it is in a downloaded photo allows the secret url trick to find the original page https://cogdogblog.com/2015/10/flickr-trickr/

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                          #70

                          @cogdog Whoa! This would’ve saved me so much trouble throughout the years.

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                          • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                            In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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                            #71

                            @mwichary fwiw I wrote some of my favs a while back

                            https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/examples-of-great-urls/

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                            • jimniels@mastodon.socialJ jimniels@mastodon.social

                              @mwichary fwiw I wrote some of my favs a while back

                              https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/examples-of-great-urls/

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                              #72

                              @jimniels Thanks! Added here, maybe it helps someone! https://unsung.aresluna.org/mailbag-urls-as-ui/

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                              • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                                @cogdog Whoa! This would’ve saved me so much trouble throughout the years.

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                                #73

                                @mwichary @cogdog One pattern I use a lot to locate my own images is for tags.

                                https://flickr.com/photos/splorp/tags/blue

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                                • splorp@mastodon.socialS splorp@mastodon.social

                                  @mwichary @cogdog One pattern I use a lot to locate my own images is for tags.

                                  https://flickr.com/photos/splorp/tags/blue

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                                  #74

                                  @splorp @mwichary @cogdog Slightly offtopic, but I still use `/photo.gne?id=` URL to find where I downloaded certain photos years ago: https://www.flickr.com/photo.gne?rb=1&id=3399133066

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                                  • splorp@mastodon.socialS splorp@mastodon.social

                                    @mwichary @cogdog One pattern I use a lot to locate my own images is for tags.

                                    https://flickr.com/photos/splorp/tags/blue

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                                    #75

                                    @splorp @mwichary @cogdog look at that patina on that bus design. Just don’t look at the poorly applied window tint.

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                                    • mx@typo.socialM mx@typo.social

                                      @splorp @mwichary @cogdog Slightly offtopic, but I still use `/photo.gne?id=` URL to find where I downloaded certain photos years ago: https://www.flickr.com/photo.gne?rb=1&id=3399133066

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                                      #76

                                      @mx @mwichary @cogdog Just the fact that those legacy Game Neverending URIs still function after all this time is mind-blowing.

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                                      • luke@typo.socialL luke@typo.social

                                        @splorp @mwichary @cogdog look at that patina on that bus design. Just don’t look at the poorly applied window tint.

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                                        #77

                                        @Luke @mwichary @cogdog Those air pockets make my teeth hurt.

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                                        • splorp@mastodon.socialS splorp@mastodon.social

                                          @mx @mwichary @cogdog Just the fact that those legacy Game Neverending URIs still function after all this time is mind-blowing.

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                                          #78

                                          @splorp @mx @cogdog Cool URIs Never End

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