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  • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

    In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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    #66

    @mwichary this clean URI scheme is also why FlickrClient.py could support 68 methods of the Flickr API in just 48 lines of code. The core magic:

    def __getattr__(self, method):
    def method(_self=self, _method=method, **params):
    _method = _method.replace("_", ".")
    url = HOST + PATH + "?method=%s&%s&api_key=%s" %
    (_method, urlencode(params), self.api_key)
    try: rsp = xmltramp.load(url)
    except: return None
    return _self._parseResponse(rsp)
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    • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

      In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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      #67

      @mwichary Much agreement!

      There is plenty of prior art, some examples that I particularly remember:
      - 2010: https://warpspire.com/posts/url-design/
      - 2017: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/urls-are-ui
      - 2018: https://alexpounds.com/blog/2018/12/29/four-cool-urls

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      • polarbirke@indieweb.socialP polarbirke@indieweb.social

        @mwichary Much agreement!

        There is plenty of prior art, some examples that I particularly remember:
        - 2010: https://warpspire.com/posts/url-design/
        - 2017: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/urls-are-ui
        - 2018: https://alexpounds.com/blog/2018/12/29/four-cool-urls

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        #68

        @polarbirke Thanks for sharing!

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        • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

          In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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          #69

          @mwichary I love the Flickr url pattern. You could not find a collections link with knowing the pattern.

          I am fine with the unique id as shorter url. Also knowing where it is in a downloaded photo allows the secret url trick to find the original page https://cogdogblog.com/2015/10/flickr-trickr/

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          • cogdog@cosocial.caC cogdog@cosocial.ca

            @mwichary I love the Flickr url pattern. You could not find a collections link with knowing the pattern.

            I am fine with the unique id as shorter url. Also knowing where it is in a downloaded photo allows the secret url trick to find the original page https://cogdogblog.com/2015/10/flickr-trickr/

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            #70

            @cogdog Whoa! This would’ve saved me so much trouble throughout the years.

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            • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

              In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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              #71

              @mwichary fwiw I wrote some of my favs a while back

              https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/examples-of-great-urls/

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              • jimniels@mastodon.socialJ jimniels@mastodon.social

                @mwichary fwiw I wrote some of my favs a while back

                https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/examples-of-great-urls/

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                #72

                @jimniels Thanks! Added here, maybe it helps someone! https://unsung.aresluna.org/mailbag-urls-as-ui/

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                • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                  @cogdog Whoa! This would’ve saved me so much trouble throughout the years.

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                  #73

                  @mwichary @cogdog One pattern I use a lot to locate my own images is for tags.

                  https://flickr.com/photos/splorp/tags/blue

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                  • splorp@mastodon.socialS splorp@mastodon.social

                    @mwichary @cogdog One pattern I use a lot to locate my own images is for tags.

                    https://flickr.com/photos/splorp/tags/blue

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                    #74

                    @splorp @mwichary @cogdog Slightly offtopic, but I still use `/photo.gne?id=` URL to find where I downloaded certain photos years ago: https://www.flickr.com/photo.gne?rb=1&id=3399133066

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                    • splorp@mastodon.socialS splorp@mastodon.social

                      @mwichary @cogdog One pattern I use a lot to locate my own images is for tags.

                      https://flickr.com/photos/splorp/tags/blue

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                      #75

                      @splorp @mwichary @cogdog look at that patina on that bus design. Just don’t look at the poorly applied window tint.

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                      • mx@typo.socialM mx@typo.social

                        @splorp @mwichary @cogdog Slightly offtopic, but I still use `/photo.gne?id=` URL to find where I downloaded certain photos years ago: https://www.flickr.com/photo.gne?rb=1&id=3399133066

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                        #76

                        @mx @mwichary @cogdog Just the fact that those legacy Game Neverending URIs still function after all this time is mind-blowing.

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                        • luke@typo.socialL luke@typo.social

                          @splorp @mwichary @cogdog look at that patina on that bus design. Just don’t look at the poorly applied window tint.

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                          #77

                          @Luke @mwichary @cogdog Those air pockets make my teeth hurt.

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                          • splorp@mastodon.socialS splorp@mastodon.social

                            @mx @mwichary @cogdog Just the fact that those legacy Game Neverending URIs still function after all this time is mind-blowing.

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                            #78

                            @splorp @mx @cogdog Cool URIs Never End

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                            • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                              @splorp @mx @cogdog Cool URIs Never End

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                              #79

                              @mwichary @splorp @mx @cogdog Just wanted to pipe up and mention that while the photo.gne trick isn't advertised it's known and so useful I even have a Launchbar search plugin for it.

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                              • mez@mastodon.nzM mez@mastodon.nz

                                @mwichary Regarding the note about adding a human friendly slug to the end of a URL, do you have a thought or preference to putting that part before the unique id?

                                flickr.com/mwichary/sets/alishan-forest-railway-72177720330077904

                                On an app I run I went with that style so the all the human readable bits could be typed and autocompleted. It does seem to be a little harder to read since it’s in the middle of the text though.

                                For example: https://app.mythic.nz/book/public-storybooks/sharable-public-storybooks/v4dUmg8Jjk6LmQYQlqy6Pw

                                `public-storybooks` is the collection slug, and `sharable-public-storybooks` is the page title slug.

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                                #80

                                @mez @mwichary

                                Off the top of my head...

                                ID first means the URL can survive truncation of the slug part. Particularly good if you can keep the prefix short.

                                Slug first means URLs sort in alphabetical order by their slug. Maybe more suitable for small numbers of items, like a blog?

                                ID first is also marginally easier to construct a URL by hand - you generally don't need to add a fake slug, just end the URL at the ID and it still meets the pattern

                                Random example of slug-first that happened to be in my history:
                                - canonical URL: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/stargate-revived-prime-video-new-series-1236431118/
                                - doesn't work with only ID: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/1236431118/
                                - works if you know the format and add a fake slug: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/yeehaw-1236431118/

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                                • imsop@tech.lgbtI imsop@tech.lgbt

                                  @mez @mwichary

                                  Off the top of my head...

                                  ID first means the URL can survive truncation of the slug part. Particularly good if you can keep the prefix short.

                                  Slug first means URLs sort in alphabetical order by their slug. Maybe more suitable for small numbers of items, like a blog?

                                  ID first is also marginally easier to construct a URL by hand - you generally don't need to add a fake slug, just end the URL at the ID and it still meets the pattern

                                  Random example of slug-first that happened to be in my history:
                                  - canonical URL: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/stargate-revived-prime-video-new-series-1236431118/
                                  - doesn't work with only ID: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/1236431118/
                                  - works if you know the format and add a fake slug: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/yeehaw-1236431118/

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                                  #81

                                  @imsop @mez In theory a well-functioning URL bar/omnibox should handle both, so that’s somewhat reassuring.

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                                  • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                                    @imsop @mez In theory a well-functioning URL bar/omnibox should handle both, so that’s somewhat reassuring.

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                                    #82

                                    @mwichary @mez
                                    I actually found the example by typing "-123" into Firefox's address bar and looking what it came up with 🙃

                                    However, Firefox's completion searches history by both URL and title, in any order. If I type "new stargate series", I get both that article and https://reactormag.com/stargate-amazon-mgm-studios/

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                                    • cogdog@cosocial.caC cogdog@cosocial.ca

                                      @mwichary I love the Flickr url pattern. You could not find a collections link with knowing the pattern.

                                      I am fine with the unique id as shorter url. Also knowing where it is in a downloaded photo allows the secret url trick to find the original page https://cogdogblog.com/2015/10/flickr-trickr/

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                                      #83

                                      @cogdog @mwichary the URL structure for images (id, secret, size) is described in the API docs. https://www.flickr.com/services/api/misc.urls.html
                                      (I built a few things on the Flickr API circa 2005-2010. I suspect I can still remember some of the flickr.photos.search arguments.)

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                                      • paulmison@sfba.socialP paulmison@sfba.social

                                        @cogdog @mwichary the URL structure for images (id, secret, size) is described in the API docs. https://www.flickr.com/services/api/misc.urls.html
                                        (I built a few things on the Flickr API circa 2005-2010. I suspect I can still remember some of the flickr.photos.search arguments.)

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                                        #84

                                        @paulmison @mwichary That api has held strong, With little more the docs and the Flickr PHP library I built two sites like 12 years ago that use the API and they still work

                                        https://pechaflickr.net/
                                        https://5card.Cogdogblog.com

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                                        • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                                          In which I celebrate the craft of Flickr’s original, amazing URL scheme: https://unsung.aresluna.org/unsung-heroes-flickrs-urls-scheme/

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                                          #85

                                          I don’t know if this is spicy (I honestly don’t even know what “spicy” means anymore on the internet), but wrote what I learned about making a bug process work for more people than just engineers: https://unsung.aresluna.org/how-to-make-sure-a-designer-never-files-a-bug-again/

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