Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe?
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission Apple is outsourcing it to Google Gemini.
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@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
That's a lot of words to say that you don't know what a 'free market' actually is. Hint: it's not the same as an unregulated market and, in general, unregulated markets are rarely free markets.
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission why not just ban generative "ai" entirely? that would be much better
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@webjac @EUCommission Apple chose not to introduce Apple Intelligence in Europe, not the EU.
Also, the market needs to be regulated. Smartphones have become a duopoly, so if Google decides 'Gemini only' an Apple decides 'Gemini, erm, Siri AI only', competition is effectively dead in the market.
The EU is right to regulate this. Let Apple cook (ahem) in their anti-competitive choices.
@webjac @EUCommission Without a public API, other LLM providers can only offer a chat app and that's it.
It would be similar to Apple not making a public notification API that other apps can use 15 years ago. In that world, iPhones would only have iMessage as a functional instant messaging app, which would clearly be anti-competitive.
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@webjac @EUCommission When you have a duopoly, it's very clearly not a free market.
@kalleboo @webjac @EUCommission the duopoly only exists due to other regulations, specifically the IP laws -
Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
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Cool. Can you get them to not roll out Siri AI in the US as well? -
@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
@webjac @EUCommission if the tech sector were competitive, if we had 100s of smartphone operating systems to choose from, on equal grounds, then what you're saying could make sense
however, this is not the world we live in. apple and google have a shared monopoly on smartphone operating systems -
@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
@webjac @EUCommission a free market with a duopoly? two participants? Apple and Google. Where both have a deal. That’s an interesting definition of free market.
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission how is this different from Gemini on Pixel phones which are allowed and sold in the EU?
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@webjac @EUCommission But there is no such thing as 'the market'. And better don't trust apple.
@phillip @webjac @EUCommission "the market" is EU's entire raison d'être, and the reason why they apply such stupid ruling
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@webjac @EUCommission if the tech sector were competitive, if we had 100s of smartphone operating systems to choose from, on equal grounds, then what you're saying could make sense
however, this is not the world we live in. apple and google have a shared monopoly on smartphone operating systems@webjac @EUCommission would also say that what apple is doing undermines the free market. without interoperability, companies can themselves restrict the market
it's not only government regulations that can go against free market, the companies themselves can
(this doesn't mean i think the free market is a good idea, btw. i am opposed to capitalism as a whole. but if i were forced to think in a more capitalist way, this is what i would say) -
@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
@webjac @EUCommission are you dumb ?
it's their job to protect consumer from those predatory move, so your own post is useless.
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That's a lot of words to say that you don't know what a 'free market' actually is. Hint: it's not the same as an unregulated market and, in general, unregulated markets are rarely free markets.
@david_chisnall @webjac @EUCommission it's a lot of words to say that you don't understand the concept of free market.
Monopoly behaviors that Apple and Google do is not "free market", as they prevent it to self regulate.
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@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
@webjac
Oh, don't mind me. I'm just here for the ratio...
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@Germo @EUCommission I agree, the spirit is fine. But I'm choosing by choosing to buy their (limited) product. let them offer it the way they want to and the market will vote with their wallet. Regulators are not needed here.
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@webjac @EUCommission Yeah, that's not how regulations work bub.
It's our choice if we want to buy food laced with lead and cadmium, if I want to its my choice! /s
Apple *could* have met the EUs regulations, they chose not to out of contempt for all Europeans because they don't want to be regulated, full stop.
The cult of Apple is almost as stomach turning as the cult of Elon.
@Javensbukan @EUCommission That's the problem. In this case the regulation is not needed from my point of view. We can differ on that of course
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@EUCommission how is this different from Gemini on Pixel phones which are allowed and sold in the EU?
@felipecerda @EUCommission the APIs that Siri AI is using, are not available to 3rd party vendors
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@EUCommission how is this different from Gemini on Pixel phones which are allowed and sold in the EU?
@felipecerda @EUCommission you can replace Gemini by Perplexity and ChatGPT on Android. Not Mistral yet
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️Apple's endgame is never to comply with the EU Commission, but rather wait for enough people to complain to the EU Commission to change the rules.
That is the endgame.
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission @gklka Hey, you should tell this to the three people using any “alternative marketplace” on iOS.
As an Apple user, I don’t care who says what. I buy Apple products because of their functionality and seamless integration. These regulations are negatively impacting the user experience of this integration, which you clearly have no fucking clue about. Nobody asked you to disrupt this with any regulations.
