Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
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@bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog I agree.
The "AI" that is used in medical fields is subject to stronger criteria, is not fed the entire internet, and given very specific things to look for/analyse/etc. Niche tools can do a better job than one that tries to do everything.
Plus, have you seen the crap us humans put on the internet? No wonder the "AI" in the broad-spectrum sense is shit...
Add the fact that "AI" cannot distinguish between truth and satire, just makes it worse.
@richrockster @bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog
That's the point. Medical (or other specialist) AI are feed scientific data. Generalist AI like Gemini, ChatGPT, etc are feed... 4chan, Reddit, etc.
Not your best source on anything, really
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog
those executives actually renamed that businessits now
microAIsoftAI365AIcopilotAIAIAIthe last AI is for all the ads they put in the menus
the AI before is for the gigabytes of bloatware
copilot is slang for surveillance capitalism/spying
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They're sneaky about it though. I use Outlook on my Samsung phone, and while I can disable CoPilot on the Microslop accounts, it keeps turning itself back on.
May have to just move to Thunderbird.@Fragarach @GossiTheDog Corporate said to my wife to use Outlook. I saw the ads disguised as real mails and immediately got into action "let's use Thunderbird instead". No one complained (yet).
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@GossiTheDog whenever my dad is about to lose a political or religious argument with me via text, the next message I receive is an extremely long copy/paste response from chatGPT full of logical fallacies.
It’s annoying AF.
@zed @GossiTheDog Tell him you won’t read something that nobody bothered to write.
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@richrockster @bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog
That's the point. Medical (or other specialist) AI are feed scientific data. Generalist AI like Gemini, ChatGPT, etc are feed... 4chan, Reddit, etc.
Not your best source on anything, really
@twit_terrorist @richrockster @bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog One of the causes of the whole fiasco is that “AI” is a marketing term encompassing a wide variety of very different technologies that do very different things.
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog “you are here” on the Gartner Hype Cycle
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@twit_terrorist @richrockster @bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog One of the causes of the whole fiasco is that “AI” is a marketing term encompassing a wide variety of very different technologies that do very different things.
@MisuseCase @twit_terrorist @richrockster @bemmesr @GossiTheDog
Yes, actually, what most people call AI should really be called something like Artificial Text Generator ( yes, PLEASE, we have to take off the term "intelligence")
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
Did you tell him to replace vanilla Android with GrapheneOS or LineageOS? Replacing vanilla Android is the only sure way to get rid of Gemini Gen AI bullshit.
https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/116000636303016143
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog @baldur How come this part (seen in of the attached pictures in the toot above):
“As of writing, Microsoft's stock is down around 10% over the past three months, as executives like CEO Satya Nadella, President Brad Smith, and CCO Judson Althoff unload tens of millions of dollars of shares.”
not a way bigger story? If the top-brass of MS does not think themselves at the brink of an AI goldrush, why should anybody else?
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@GossiTheDog A lot of tech people hate it too, and can't wait for the bubble to burst.
I keep seeing adverts for new laptops "powered by AI", and cannot think of a less attractive selling point.
All the devs on my team have gone from "This could really speed up development" to "This creates so much extra work because there is no intelligence there, they're all just sycophantic predictive text generators".
When working with codebases, the AIs really struggle with context. They often provide outdated solutions, introduce technical debt and often add three bugs for every bug fixed. We have stopped using AI completely. No "vibe coding" crap allowed here.
Please check out https://stopgenai.com
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog ...at the same time i spoke a retired friend who was very enthusiastic about the new AI features in Adobe Photoshop, it really made his hobby more interesting.
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog
TV with Copilot? Why? 🫠 -
Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog many platforms have "innovated" by introducing ways of detecting, removing, and blocking AI-generated content. Pinterest, SoundCloud...
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AI may be a nice tool to help humanity advance in certain fields, like medical diagnosis. But that doesn't mean it needs or has to be used "everywhere".
An analogy would be like eating fast food 3 times a day, you'll surely end up sick.@hadon @GossiTheDog We can really do without the gratuitous platitudes. That is not "AI". You don't have to "acknowledge" that "AI" could do something good (it can't). You can just say "no, fuck you" to them.
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@hadon @GossiTheDog right. And there is a big difference between the 'AI' which helps with medical diagnoses and the 'AI' that produces confident-sounding text about almost anything, even when that text is wrong.
@bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog A statistical model aiding in.diagnosis is not "AI" just science/applied statistics. "AI" is the app that tells the doctor what diagnosis to make, bypassing their agency and laundering responsibility, and harvests confidential patient data for "training". "AI" is a marketing term and a capitalist/technofascist program, not a technology.
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@bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog A statistical model aiding in.diagnosis is not "AI" just science/applied statistics. "AI" is the app that tells the doctor what diagnosis to make, bypassing their agency and laundering responsibility, and harvests confidential patient data for "training". "AI" is a marketing term and a capitalist/technofascist program, not a technology.
@bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog Medical professionals understand, or are supposed to understand, this difference. Even when you get blood work done, the labs don't return a diagnosis. They return numbers and normal ranges. It's up to the doctor to make a diagnosis, which may involve further knowledge they have of the patient. This is also the difference between a legitimate statistical diagnostic tool and "AI".
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@GossiTheDog ...at the same time i spoke a retired friend who was very enthusiastic about the new AI features in Adobe Photoshop, it really made his hobby more interesting.
@ErikJonker @GossiTheDog Yes, if your hobby is shopping other people's photos to shitpost on reddit, having a tool that helps you steal other people's creative work probably sounds appealing...
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog Honestly, with the Google settlement about their voice assistants eavesdropping, "accidentally" triggering Google assistant constantly, and just HOW much Google keeps pushing gemini into everything I'm thinking about moving my Pixel over to GrapheneOS.
I just want to escape!
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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.
It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.
I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.
@GossiTheDog I was listening to a podcast with some Google vulnerability disclosure heads begging people to not use AI for their reports.
