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Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

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  • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

    Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

    You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

    #alltogethermarch
    28 03 26

    heathermj@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #17

    @Geri
    Bedford Greens were there, they agree with your assessment of numbers, and the lack of media coverage 🙄

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    • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

      @Geri as fully expected the met failed to spot around 450,000 people though. Hands up anyone who didn't expect that.

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      #18

      @capnthommo @Geri

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      • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

        @HarriettMB @Geri

        Oh, I see Yaxley-Lennon is on a work trip in America. Coordinating with his allies in the rightwing globalist movement

        BBC News - Tommy Robinson welcomed at US State Department
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxdzn2evv5o

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        #19

        @TCatInReality @Geri It’s interesting he was able to go at such apparently short notice…. His ESTA thing should have flagged up his multiple convictions, and his double barrelled name should have also delayed processing. But he ‘fled’ to Europe and was in the USA in about a week. Normally, the ESTA means anyone with criminal convictions of the type he has would be excluded. Maybe we don’t live in ‘normal’ times any more, especially not those in the USA.

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        • harriettmb@toot.walesH harriettmb@toot.wales

          @TCatInReality @Geri It’s interesting he was able to go at such apparently short notice…. His ESTA thing should have flagged up his multiple convictions, and his double barrelled name should have also delayed processing. But he ‘fled’ to Europe and was in the USA in about a week. Normally, the ESTA means anyone with criminal convictions of the type he has would be excluded. Maybe we don’t live in ‘normal’ times any more, especially not those in the USA.

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          #20

          @HarriettMB @Geri

          Yaxley-Lennon already had a standing ban in the USA for trying to enter on a fraudulent passport years earlier.

          Someone powerful waived that to admit him to America on short notice.

          Now, who would want that? 🤔

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          • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

            Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

            You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

            #alltogethermarch
            28 03 26

            gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @Geri Awesome!

            I’ve always found demonstrations to be not just displays of discontempt, but networking events. What happens after the demo often counts for more.

            And of course, reality manufacturing from MSM being in the hands of the far-right is accelerating as a counter-strategy. The only thing they know is doubling down. And they are afraid!

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            • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

              @HarriettMB @Geri

              Yaxley-Lennon already had a standing ban in the USA for trying to enter on a fraudulent passport years earlier.

              Someone powerful waived that to admit him to America on short notice.

              Now, who would want that? 🤔

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              #22

              @TCatInReality @Geri It seems he’s being sponsored by a politician named Rittenhouse. I wonder if that one is any relation to the young Kyle Rittenhouse who crossed state lines with guns and murdered non-white people: who escaped justice, and who isn’t the leader/hero the Republicans tried to make him?

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              • harriettmb@toot.walesH harriettmb@toot.wales

                @TCatInReality @Geri It seems he’s being sponsored by a politician named Rittenhouse. I wonder if that one is any relation to the young Kyle Rittenhouse who crossed state lines with guns and murdered non-white people: who escaped justice, and who isn’t the leader/hero the Republicans tried to make him?

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                #23

                @HarriettMB @Geri

                Don't know who. But a Congressman wouldn't have that kind of power.

                Here's a nice summary of Yaxley-Lennon's crimes and legal problems.
                https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tommy-robinson-timeline-legal-troubles-133503633.html

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                • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                  Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                  You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                  #alltogethermarch
                  28 03 26

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                  #24

                  @Geri Absolutely with the protesters

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                  • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                    Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                    You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                    #alltogethermarch
                    28 03 26

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                    #25

                    @Geri It's a clear sign, but you can make sure of it only on next ballots. The sentiment of 1930s Germany isn't spreading only for today's US, it is fueled in many countries: expecially "allied" ones.

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                    • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                      Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                      You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                      #alltogethermarch
                      28 03 26

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                      #26

                      @Geri

                      I just looked at Sky News website and this is story number 25 after scrolling down quite far.

                      Yes, twenty five.

                      I didn't check the BBC website out of principle.

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                      • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                        Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                        You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                        #alltogethermarch
                        28 03 26

                        budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #27

                        @Geri ... organisers claim

                        The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle

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                        • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                          @Geri

                          Zero stories in the #BBCNews app today

                          But you can read the story of people whose skin "is falling off" (story # 4)

                          Can't argue with those news priorities.
                          /s

                          FFS, #MediaMustDoBetter

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                          #28

                          @TCatInReality @Geri

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2rn03ryz8o

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                            #29

                            @diffrentcolours and in the Daily Mirror xx

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                            • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                              @Geri ... organisers claim

                              The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle

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                              #30

                              @budududuroiu @Geri That's not necessarily true (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation). You'd want to take into account the track records of the various parties involved (e.g. for systematic error, and partisan reporting bias), look into the methodology used to produce the estimates, and perhaps try your hand at producing your own estimate.

                              As Wikipedia says: if one party claims the sky is blue, and another party claims it's yellow, that doesn't mean the sky is "probably a shade of green".

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                              • wizzwizz4@fosstodon.orgW wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org

                                @budududuroiu @Geri That's not necessarily true (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation). You'd want to take into account the track records of the various parties involved (e.g. for systematic error, and partisan reporting bias), look into the methodology used to produce the estimates, and perhaps try your hand at producing your own estimate.

                                As Wikipedia says: if one party claims the sky is blue, and another party claims it's yellow, that doesn't mean the sky is "probably a shade of green".

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                                #31

                                @wizzwizz4 @Geri my methodology is simple, I use the Metallica method.

                                I look at the Moscow 1991 Metallica concert (which was estimated at around 1.6 million attendees on an airfield), and compare

                                Is it likely that the picture on the left from the Together Alliance protest shows a crowd 1/3rd the size of the crowd on the right? Unlikely.

                                Edit: it's not that I want to pour cold water on Together Alliance, but I also realise they have partisan reasons for inflating the number of attendees

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                                • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                                  @wizzwizz4 @Geri my methodology is simple, I use the Metallica method.

                                  I look at the Moscow 1991 Metallica concert (which was estimated at around 1.6 million attendees on an airfield), and compare

                                  Is it likely that the picture on the left from the Together Alliance protest shows a crowd 1/3rd the size of the crowd on the right? Unlikely.

                                  Edit: it's not that I want to pour cold water on Together Alliance, but I also realise they have partisan reasons for inflating the number of attendees

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                                  #32

                                  @budududuroiu @Geri That's a good method! However, the people in the picture on the left are largely confined to a road, which stretches out of frame on both sides; you'd also want to take into account how much of the road is occupied when making your estimate. Is there any way to get an idea of that?

                                  But yeah: the Together Alliance want their (reported) crowd sizes to be bigger than the (reported) crowd sizes in the far-right rallies, so there's motive. (The Met also has motive.)

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                                  • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                                    @Geri ... organisers claim

                                    The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle

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                                    #33

                                    @budududuroiu were you there?

                                    I have attended numerous marches in London xx

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                                    • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                      @budududuroiu were you there?

                                      I have attended numerous marches in London xx

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                                      #34

                                      @Geri why does that matter? I've been to Glasto and there's no way I could tell you how many people are in attendance at whatever stage I'm at at the time

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                                      • lad_hallo@mastodon.socialL lad_hallo@mastodon.social

                                        @TCatInReality @Geri

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2rn03ryz8o

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                                        #35

                                        @LaD_Hallo @TCatInReality look at the bias in this

                                        The 4th paragraph is bold text and talks about 100,000 marchers

                                        Yesterday's march is described as tens of 1,000s

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                                        • wizzwizz4@fosstodon.orgW wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org

                                          @budududuroiu @Geri That's a good method! However, the people in the picture on the left are largely confined to a road, which stretches out of frame on both sides; you'd also want to take into account how much of the road is occupied when making your estimate. Is there any way to get an idea of that?

                                          But yeah: the Together Alliance want their (reported) crowd sizes to be bigger than the (reported) crowd sizes in the far-right rallies, so there's motive. (The Met also has motive.)

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                                          #36

                                          @wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests

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