Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics
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@TCatInReality @Geri It’s interesting he was able to go at such apparently short notice…. His ESTA thing should have flagged up his multiple convictions, and his double barrelled name should have also delayed processing. But he ‘fled’ to Europe and was in the USA in about a week. Normally, the ESTA means anyone with criminal convictions of the type he has would be excluded. Maybe we don’t live in ‘normal’ times any more, especially not those in the USA.
Yaxley-Lennon already had a standing ban in the USA for trying to enter on a fraudulent passport years earlier.
Someone powerful waived that to admit him to America on short notice.
Now, who would want that?
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Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics
You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM
#alltogethermarch
28 03 26@Geri Awesome!
I’ve always found demonstrations to be not just displays of discontempt, but networking events. What happens after the demo often counts for more.
And of course, reality manufacturing from MSM being in the hands of the far-right is accelerating as a counter-strategy. The only thing they know is doubling down. And they are afraid!
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Yaxley-Lennon already had a standing ban in the USA for trying to enter on a fraudulent passport years earlier.
Someone powerful waived that to admit him to America on short notice.
Now, who would want that?
@TCatInReality @Geri It seems he’s being sponsored by a politician named Rittenhouse. I wonder if that one is any relation to the young Kyle Rittenhouse who crossed state lines with guns and murdered non-white people: who escaped justice, and who isn’t the leader/hero the Republicans tried to make him?
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@TCatInReality @Geri It seems he’s being sponsored by a politician named Rittenhouse. I wonder if that one is any relation to the young Kyle Rittenhouse who crossed state lines with guns and murdered non-white people: who escaped justice, and who isn’t the leader/hero the Republicans tried to make him?
Don't know who. But a Congressman wouldn't have that kind of power.
Here's a nice summary of Yaxley-Lennon's crimes and legal problems.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tommy-robinson-timeline-legal-troubles-133503633.html -
Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics
You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM
#alltogethermarch
28 03 26@Geri Absolutely with the protesters
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Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics
You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM
#alltogethermarch
28 03 26@Geri It's a clear sign, but you can make sure of it only on next ballots. The sentiment of 1930s Germany isn't spreading only for today's US, it is fueled in many countries: expecially "allied" ones.
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Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics
You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM
#alltogethermarch
28 03 26I just looked at Sky News website and this is story number 25 after scrolling down quite far.
Yes, twenty five.
I didn't check the BBC website out of principle.
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Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics
You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM
#alltogethermarch
28 03 26@Geri ... organisers claim
The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle
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Zero stories in the #BBCNews app today
But you can read the story of people whose skin "is falling off" (story # 4)
Can't argue with those news priorities.
/sFFS, #MediaMustDoBetter
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@diffrentcolours and in the Daily Mirror xx
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@Geri ... organisers claim
The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle
@budududuroiu @Geri That's not necessarily true (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation). You'd want to take into account the track records of the various parties involved (e.g. for systematic error, and partisan reporting bias), look into the methodology used to produce the estimates, and perhaps try your hand at producing your own estimate.
As Wikipedia says: if one party claims the sky is blue, and another party claims it's yellow, that doesn't mean the sky is "probably a shade of green".
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@budududuroiu @Geri That's not necessarily true (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation). You'd want to take into account the track records of the various parties involved (e.g. for systematic error, and partisan reporting bias), look into the methodology used to produce the estimates, and perhaps try your hand at producing your own estimate.
As Wikipedia says: if one party claims the sky is blue, and another party claims it's yellow, that doesn't mean the sky is "probably a shade of green".
@wizzwizz4 @Geri my methodology is simple, I use the Metallica method.
I look at the Moscow 1991 Metallica concert (which was estimated at around 1.6 million attendees on an airfield), and compare
Is it likely that the picture on the left from the Together Alliance protest shows a crowd 1/3rd the size of the crowd on the right? Unlikely.
Edit: it's not that I want to pour cold water on Together Alliance, but I also realise they have partisan reasons for inflating the number of attendees
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@wizzwizz4 @Geri my methodology is simple, I use the Metallica method.
I look at the Moscow 1991 Metallica concert (which was estimated at around 1.6 million attendees on an airfield), and compare
Is it likely that the picture on the left from the Together Alliance protest shows a crowd 1/3rd the size of the crowd on the right? Unlikely.
Edit: it's not that I want to pour cold water on Together Alliance, but I also realise they have partisan reasons for inflating the number of attendees
@budududuroiu @Geri That's a good method! However, the people in the picture on the left are largely confined to a road, which stretches out of frame on both sides; you'd also want to take into account how much of the road is occupied when making your estimate. Is there any way to get an idea of that?
But yeah: the Together Alliance want their (reported) crowd sizes to be bigger than the (reported) crowd sizes in the far-right rallies, so there's motive. (The Met also has motive.)
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@Geri ... organisers claim
The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle
@budududuroiu were you there?
I have attended numerous marches in London xx
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@budududuroiu were you there?
I have attended numerous marches in London xx
@Geri why does that matter? I've been to Glasto and there's no way I could tell you how many people are in attendance at whatever stage I'm at at the time
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@LaD_Hallo @TCatInReality look at the bias in this
The 4th paragraph is bold text and talks about 100,000 marchers
Yesterday's march is described as tens of 1,000s
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@budududuroiu @Geri That's a good method! However, the people in the picture on the left are largely confined to a road, which stretches out of frame on both sides; you'd also want to take into account how much of the road is occupied when making your estimate. Is there any way to get an idea of that?
But yeah: the Together Alliance want their (reported) crowd sizes to be bigger than the (reported) crowd sizes in the far-right rallies, so there's motive. (The Met also has motive.)
@wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests
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Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics
You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM
#alltogethermarch
28 03 26@Geri I did actually hear about it on BBC radio 2.
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@wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests
@budududuroiu @wizzwizz4 being there you can get an understanding of size because of how slowly it moves xx
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@Geri why does that matter? I've been to Glasto and there's no way I could tell you how many people are in attendance at whatever stage I'm at at the time
@budududuroiu you get an understanding of size if you are present rather than just watching on a TV
BTW the Daily Mirror are leading with 500 K
