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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

    Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

    I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

    whitecattamer@mastodon.onlineW This user is from outside of this forum
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    whitecattamer@mastodon.online
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    #161

    @sundogplanets On top of everything else about AI, what makes me sad is how much it has endangered digital communication because at any moment, anyone anywhere can just read your work into the slop system and then it’s stuck there. It’s a billion points of failure weighed against the basic necessity of scientific collaboration.

    And they think it helps you, or them, or even the model, but it just makes everything more insular, and that sucks.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

      Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

      I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

      williambob@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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      williambob@mastodon.social
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      #162

      @sundogplanets - perhaps, hear me out…SUCKERSIMA GOATAND NOW YOUR ASS HURTS!!… no really, as if all political tweets, and toots aren’t at least facetimed…and good old Academic footnotes (YAY TEAM HARRIS) should be showing your work - keylogging and real time progress like the proud and frustrated #Artists of this superbombastic #elephantastic Mastadon often provide to the delight of those lovers of the real light

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      • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

        @RegGuy @ravenbait @sundogplanets
        I don't think it is moot.

        eryops@dice.campE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #163

        @raymaccarthy @RegGuy @ravenbait @sundogplanets Was the original manuscript written in Word? Google Docs? sent via e-mail on a Microsoft or Google platform? Do any of these companies, even if they trumpet FERPA compliance, restrict what they feed their AI?

        I really don't think you can hope for anonymity and a scrape-free experience in 2026 unless you're using LibreOffice on a system unplugged from the net.

        But no. Fuck this "colleague."

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

          Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

          I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

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          spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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          #164

          @sundogplanets

          That was a passive-agressive response. They could have just said no time or interest in doing review.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

            Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

            I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

            dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
            dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #165

            @sundogplanets I think just telling them that you sent this to them in private not for them to share with third parties and that you're hurt that they didn't respect that would get the point across (and maybe make them think about what constitutes "third parties" and why they don't think their chatbot's owners count) without even bringing up AI.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

              Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

              I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

              catnip@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
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              catnip@mastodon.online
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #166

              @sundogplanets I suspect a colleague does the same to me. Do they not think that we could just do that ourselves if that’s what we wanted? 🙃

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                evanwolf@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                evanwolf@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                evanwolf@mastodon.social
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                #167

                @sundogplanets Like other knowledge, social norms propagate across human networks unevenly over time. You already experienced the wave of spreading AI risk awareness. You can defend yourself from risk or, your call, be a carrier.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                  Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                  I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                  atraidez@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
                  atraidez@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
                  atraidez@infosec.exchange
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                  #168

                  @sundogplanets It always sucks when trust is lost from someone that held it with respect previously. Sorry that person failed to respect you and broke that trust.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                    Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                    I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                    schtaks@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                    schtaks@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                    schtaks@infosec.exchange
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                    #169

                    @sundogplanets some will sell their dreams for small desires

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                    • diazona@techhub.socialD diazona@techhub.social

                      @jcurioso @elduvelle @iris "they"/"them" can be used as singular non-gendered pronouns. (There was a time they were almost exclusively used as plural pronouns, but now they can be either.)

                      P.S. Mastodon thinks your post is written in Dutch, it seems 😆

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                      bbegtpk@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #170

                      @diazona
                      Apparently 'they' for an unknown individual has been in use for a long time. Like we have examples from the 1300s in middle English through to the late 1700s when someone decided the generic pronoun should be 'he'.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                        Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                        I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                        europlus@social.europlus.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
                        europlus@social.europlus.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
                        europlus@social.europlus.zone
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #171

                        @sundogplanets fuck! What a kick in the guts. Trusted to untrusted in one interaction. I feel your pain – I dread asking for feedback these days in case it ends up being The Reveal 😞

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                        • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                          @iamnmm @sundogplanets Last time I talked to this specific person, he said that his job was "being a meat terminal for Claude". He said this with apparent *pride*.

                          I have avoided him since.

                          eestileib@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          eestileib@tech.lgbt
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                          #172

                          @datarama @iamnmm @sundogplanets

                          Have you seen _Mrs Davis_? It came out like nine months after chat gpt and it has people "channeling" for the AI.

                          It was so, so good.

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                            Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                            I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                            berilious@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            berilious@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #173

                            @sundogplanets AI is perfect for those who want to be, or pretend to be, so much more than what they are. Its not necessarily a slight.

                            There is only so much time in a day, if we, through lack of oversight, or through intent, stretch ourselves.

                            AI is currently being marketed as the anti void that can fill those gaps.

                            Not sure what this means for the real connection between us humans though.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                              Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                              I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                              xsk@social.treehouse.systemsX This user is from outside of this forum
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                              xsk@social.treehouse.systems
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #174

                              @sundogplanets @bsdphk I had a similar problem, a lawyer that was helping me do an important task casually sent me an update which went : „hey the free version of chatgpt had issues reading your handwriting to translate the document, I asked a colleague to try their paid one but still had issues, can you please send me an MS word version?“

                              My answer was the one two of this thread comments combined: „I don’t appreciate that my very personal data are now shared with openAI and a random colleague of yours, I was expecting much better understanding for this matter from a lawyer. I would ask you if you want to continue to never do this again without my permission and just translate documents manually“

                              They fired me as a customer, but we are both happier now 😁

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                              • frincon@social.sciences.reF frincon@social.sciences.re

                                @Jeffrey @sundogplanets @ravenbait we are using institutional email adresses and have our own email servers usually for work.

                                jeffrey@tooting.chJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                jeffrey@tooting.ch
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                                #175

                                @frincon @sundogplanets @ravenbait Sure, I use my own domain too. Some of the external addressees for my correspondence have a gmail address. If you correspond with them then the text of your email, all the to and fro responses between you with times and dates - and those of any other people on the distribution list (maybe from other highly secure institutional servers) are owned by Google.

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                                • eryops@dice.campE eryops@dice.camp

                                  @raymaccarthy @RegGuy @ravenbait @sundogplanets Was the original manuscript written in Word? Google Docs? sent via e-mail on a Microsoft or Google platform? Do any of these companies, even if they trumpet FERPA compliance, restrict what they feed their AI?

                                  I really don't think you can hope for anonymity and a scrape-free experience in 2026 unless you're using LibreOffice on a system unplugged from the net.

                                  But no. Fuck this "colleague."

                                  ravenbait@mastodon.scotR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  ravenbait@mastodon.scot
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                                  #176

                                  @eryops @raymaccarthy @RegGuy @sundogplanets Yes, fuck 'em. There's a difference between someone you thought you could trust gaily handing your stuff to a thief, and a pickpocket filching your wallet while you're having a conversation on the street.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                                    Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                                    I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                                    rugbroed@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    rugbroed@digitalcourage.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #177

                                    @sundogplanets We are seriously doomed as a species… I feel like this war has already been lost.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      I really appreciate all the great advice and suggestions. I'm just... so disappointed and know I have to approach all my interactions with this person differently in the future. I've written up a long email, but I'm realizing that won't work as well as having a conversation with the person. Especially because I'm likely to start crying during the conversation. So. That's going to be FUN.

                                      But maybe it will help one person be less addicted to the forest-burning plagiarism machine? Maybe?

                                      thankfulmachine@oldbytes.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #178

                                      @sundogplanets Why have a conversation? I'd look them dead in the eyes and pry off the Control key and the V key off their keyboard, and then empty 16oz of full sugar Coca-Cola onto it, never breaking eye contact.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                                        Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                                        I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                                        bws@social.linux.pizzaB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        bws@social.linux.pizza
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                                        #179

                                        @sundogplanets "thanks meatproxy!"

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                                          Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                                          I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                                          molusk@piaille.frM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          molusk@piaille.frM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          molusk@piaille.fr
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #180

                                          @sundogplanets Wow ! There are a lot of comments ! And I have not seen one pointing at the site I stumble upon few weeks ago which helped me in the same situation :
                                          https://dontpastetheai.com/

                                          The colleague I had to face was one I could have been friend with so I chose the agressive version. Maybe I broke something between us from his point of view but since then he did not share his AI answers again.

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