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  3. There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

    Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.

    dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD abandonedamerica@mastodon.socialA sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS t_var_s@phpc.socialT claushoumann@mastodon.socialC 26 Replies Last reply
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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

      Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.

      dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @tante So many people have proven themselves unworthy of my respect. The wages of fascism.

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

        Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.

        abandonedamerica@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @tante I really miss Twitter sometimes, but just can't reconcile myself with what it's become. I deleted my whole account just to prevent myself from being tempted to pop back in and I'm glad I did. The old community there may still have some of the same people I really liked but every person that stays makes it easier for others to make the same choice.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

          Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.

          sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @tante The only good reason I can see any decent person willingly on Twitter is to monitor the fascists.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

            Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.

            t_var_s@phpc.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @tante Journalists could use nitter if they cared enough. And if capitalism would even have a place for actual journalism.

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

              Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.

              claushoumann@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @tante anyone going back are lost causes

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              • abandonedamerica@mastodon.socialA abandonedamerica@mastodon.social

                @tante I really miss Twitter sometimes, but just can't reconcile myself with what it's become. I deleted my whole account just to prevent myself from being tempted to pop back in and I'm glad I did. The old community there may still have some of the same people I really liked but every person that stays makes it easier for others to make the same choice.

                glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @AbandonedAmerica @tante I still have mine because I am not surrendering the namespace, but I do not use it and I log in once every 3 months or so to note who still thinks it is OK to be over there. In my cohort, it is almost nobody

                tante@tldr.nettime.orgT glyph@mastodon.socialG 2 Replies Last reply
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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

                  Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.

                  tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  I understand the pull to a certain degree, the pain. I walked away from over 30k followers on X which - if like me you have no other anchor of legitimacy - is a big deal. And I met friends there, peers. Twitter did a lot to get me where I am today. But I still wouldn't frequent a Nazi bar.

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                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                    @AbandonedAmerica @tante I still have mine because I am not surrendering the namespace, but I do not use it and I log in once every 3 months or so to note who still thinks it is OK to be over there. In my cohort, it is almost nobody

                    tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @glyph @AbandonedAmerica same. I kept the handle so nobody could take it, the account is private now though.

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                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                      @AbandonedAmerica @tante I still have mine because I am not surrendering the namespace, but I do not use it and I log in once every 3 months or so to note who still thinks it is OK to be over there. In my cohort, it is almost nobody

                      glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @AbandonedAmerica @tante there are two categories of person I see:

                      1. media personalities with an audience several tens of times the size of the fediverse, and
                      2. people in the community who Have Allegations

                      it really is the ones you most expect

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        @glyph @AbandonedAmerica same. I kept the handle so nobody could take it, the account is private now though.

                        abandonedamerica@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @tante @glyph I was concerned about that but I also didn't want any of the things I posted to be fed into Grok. I'm sure they did it anyway.

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                        • abandonedamerica@mastodon.socialA abandonedamerica@mastodon.social

                          @tante @glyph I was concerned about that but I also didn't want any of the things I posted to be fed into Grok. I'm sure they did it anyway.

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                          #12

                          @AbandonedAmerica @tante oh, yeah, and they’re hoovering up fedi too. I appreciate the protest vote but practically speaking it’s not a defense.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            I understand the pull to a certain degree, the pain. I walked away from over 30k followers on X which - if like me you have no other anchor of legitimacy - is a big deal. And I met friends there, peers. Twitter did a lot to get me where I am today. But I still wouldn't frequent a Nazi bar.

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                            #13

                            @tante 21k on fedi. 60% of the way back. and more of those are probably real 🙂

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                            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                              @AbandonedAmerica @tante oh, yeah, and they’re hoovering up fedi too. I appreciate the protest vote but practically speaking it’s not a defense.

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                              #14

                              @glyph @tante nothing online that isn't behind a password or a paywall is safe. It's part of the reason I haven't really felt like being on social media at all, honestly.

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                              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                I understand the pull to a certain degree, the pain. I walked away from over 30k followers on X which - if like me you have no other anchor of legitimacy - is a big deal. And I met friends there, peers. Twitter did a lot to get me where I am today. But I still wouldn't frequent a Nazi bar.

                                claushoumann@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @tante Yea same. I had friends there, but honestly most left the moment Elon took control. But spread across everywhere else.

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                                • t_var_s@phpc.socialT t_var_s@phpc.social

                                  @tante Journalists could use nitter if they cared enough. And if capitalism would even have a place for actual journalism.

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                                  #16

                                  @t_var_s @tante Isn't it down again?

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                                  • abandonedamerica@mastodon.socialA abandonedamerica@mastodon.social

                                    @glyph @tante nothing online that isn't behind a password or a paywall is safe. It's part of the reason I haven't really felt like being on social media at all, honestly.

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                                    #17

                                    @AbandonedAmerica @tante what can I say but “non illegitimi carborundum”

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                                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                      @tante 21k on fedi. 60% of the way back. and more of those are probably real 🙂

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                                      #18

                                      @glyph I try no longer to look at those kinds of numbers TBH. It kinda fucks up your perception of the world.

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                                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                        @AbandonedAmerica @tante what can I say but “non illegitimi carborundum”

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                                        #19

                                        @glyph @tante I am trying. That's part of the reason I reappeared. It is pretty dispiriting to realize that such an efficient mechanism for separating creators of all types from their own work is now just... everywhere. Inescapable.

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                                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                          There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".

                                          Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.

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                                          #20

                                          @tante frankly, is xitter2.0 aka "bluesky" so much better, in that aspect?

                                          Idiots follow hype trends. Shitty "influencers" seek numbers. Idiots follow trends created by "influencers". And the lions, erm, "influencers" stay near where the zebra are.

                                          ::breaks into song:: IT'S THE CIRCLE OF.... shit.

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