If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
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If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
p.s. The guide linked in the original post answers lots of questions about this topic and gives advice on where to move, how to move etc.
Don't just join a random server though, try to choose one from a curated list of reliable servers such as https://joinmastodon.org/servers or https://fedi.garden
There are lots of reliable servers on here that have been running for years, for example you can see some good servers listed by founding date at https://fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-founding-year
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If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
@FediTips in fairness this is what is one of the biggest networking challenges #Mastodon has against #bluesky is that you have to pick a server and people just want to sign up. The #GreenParty could use Mastodon today, but can't be bothered to do so, despite having the resources to do so. As they want to target where everyone is even if said platform goes against green party policies.
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@FediTips in fairness this is what is one of the biggest networking challenges #Mastodon has against #bluesky is that you have to pick a server and people just want to sign up. The #GreenParty could use Mastodon today, but can't be bothered to do so, despite having the resources to do so. As they want to target where everyone is even if said platform goes against green party policies.
It makes sense to have a nominated "default" server where people can just sign up without thinking too hard.
It doesn't make sense to have the largest server as the default server though
They should be rotating a default server from a pool of reliable servers, so that the growth is spread out instead of concentrated in one place.
This is what mastodon.social used to do in the old days, they would close m.s and direct people to sign up on a specific other server.
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If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
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If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
@FediTips nah. I'm still salty that just by joining where it seemed natural, I got lumped into the "everybody suspects you" server. It's one of the things about Mastodon that simply doesn't make sense. Plus the migration from what I understand doesn't preserve followers, etc.? If I'm wrong please correct me.
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I think https://expressional.social and https://mstdn.dk have good reputations?
They are listed as complying with the "covenant" for technical reliability and responsible moderation.
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@FediTips nah. I'm still salty that just by joining where it seemed natural, I got lumped into the "everybody suspects you" server. It's one of the things about Mastodon that simply doesn't make sense. Plus the migration from what I understand doesn't preserve followers, etc.? If I'm wrong please correct me.
Ah, apologies, wasn't trying to give that impression at all. If there's any criticism in the post, it's only meant to be towards the people who run the server and not the server's members.
With migration, you preserve all your followers and follows. The posts stay behind, but they redirect people to your new account: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server
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Ah, apologies, wasn't trying to give that impression at all. If there's any criticism in the post, it's only meant to be towards the people who run the server and not the server's members.
With migration, you preserve all your followers and follows. The posts stay behind, but they redirect people to your new account: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server
@FediTips thank you, that sounds less painful than I expected. Might give it a shot.
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@FediTips thank you, that sounds less painful than I expected. Might give it a shot.
Feel free to ask if you have any questions
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If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
@FediTips As I try to understand these concerns, why is the ownership side of this still a worry when, back in January, it was announced that Mastodon GmbH would be placed under the control of a non-profit entity?
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@FediTips in fairness this is what is one of the biggest networking challenges #Mastodon has against #bluesky is that you have to pick a server and people just want to sign up. The #GreenParty could use Mastodon today, but can't be bothered to do so, despite having the resources to do so. As they want to target where everyone is even if said platform goes against green party policies.
Would it make sense for the party to run their own server which only has official accounts?
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If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
@FediTips On the other hand won't shut down for ... whatever reasons.
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If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
@FediTips
How does the transfer of follows / followers work when one or both accounts require approval for followers? Does the person get a new follow request? -
If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
@FediTips My friend, I believe you are wrong about this — though I do not question your sincerity or your noble intentions. We've had this disagreement before, and I am so bummed that you're still launching these unfair and inaccurate attacks.
More significantly, I question (again) your using the @fedi.tips account – which many people naturally assume is an official and impartial and 100% solid source — which it *is* mostly, except for this one strange blind spot — for a personal vendetta.
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@FediTips My friend, I believe you are wrong about this — though I do not question your sincerity or your noble intentions. We've had this disagreement before, and I am so bummed that you're still launching these unfair and inaccurate attacks.
More significantly, I question (again) your using the @fedi.tips account – which many people naturally assume is an official and impartial and 100% solid source — which it *is* mostly, except for this one strange blind spot — for a personal vendetta.
@FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.
And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.
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If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-serverThe Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
25%?!! Oh come on. You'd think the folks IN FAVOR OF DECENTRALIZING WOULD DECENTRALIZE.
Or even fork off another one of their own. Or multiples.
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@FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.
And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.
You've done a two-part reply which doesn't address any of the reasons given in the original post?
"And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko."
I think you must be confusing me with someone else? I have never attacked Eugen.
I have criticised some of his decisions, and praised other decisions. I've never made it personal about him.
He has contributed more than any other person to making Mastodon and that's an amazing achievement. But not every decision is good.
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@FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.
And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.
"sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months"
That's just not true, most of the alternative servers I'm recommending have been working reliably for years:
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@FediTips
How does the transfer of follows / followers work when one or both accounts require approval for followers? Does the person get a new follow request?Followers (people who follow you) is automatic because they already followed you on the old account.
As far as I remember, follows (people you follow) will mean the person gets a new follow request from you if they have follow requests switched on.
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@FediTips As I try to understand these concerns, why is the ownership side of this still a worry when, back in January, it was announced that Mastodon GmbH would be placed under the control of a non-profit entity?
That is a really good step, and total respect to Eugen for taking it
But it doesn't by itself solve the centralisation issue.By far the biggest server, the official apps, the official site, the trademarks on the word "Mastodon" would still all be in one entity, which makes it a target.
Even non-profits can end up going down the toilet if they become dependent on big tech (e.g. Mozilla when they became dependent on Google). Mastodon hasn't done this so far though
