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  • ronsboy67@mas.toR ronsboy67@mas.to

    @FediTips what percentage is mas.to?

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    #3

    @ronsboy67

    Tiny, all the others are tiny percentages by comparison.

    Mastodon.social is far far larger than any other server which is why I've mentioned it in particular (plus also it is owned by the Mastodon developers which causes further dangers if it gets too large).

    EDIT: I did the maths, mas.to is 1.03% of the active Fedi.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

      ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

      The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

      Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

      Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

      #FediTips #Fediverse

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      #4

      p.s. The guide linked in the original post answers lots of questions about this topic and gives advice on where to move, how to move etc.

      Don't just join a random server though, try to choose one from a curated list of reliable servers such as https://joinmastodon.org/servers or https://fedi.garden

      There are lots of reliable servers on here that have been running for years, for example you can see some good servers listed by founding date at https://fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-founding-year

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

        ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

        The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

        Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

        Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

        #FediTips #Fediverse

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        #5

        @FediTips in fairness this is what is one of the biggest networking challenges #Mastodon has against #bluesky is that you have to pick a server and people just want to sign up. The #GreenParty could use Mastodon today, but can't be bothered to do so, despite having the resources to do so. As they want to target where everyone is even if said platform goes against green party policies.

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        • northantsgreens@mstdn.socialN northantsgreens@mstdn.social

          @FediTips in fairness this is what is one of the biggest networking challenges #Mastodon has against #bluesky is that you have to pick a server and people just want to sign up. The #GreenParty could use Mastodon today, but can't be bothered to do so, despite having the resources to do so. As they want to target where everyone is even if said platform goes against green party policies.

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          #6

          @NorthantsGreens

          It makes sense to have a nominated "default" server where people can just sign up without thinking too hard.

          It doesn't make sense to have the largest server as the default server though 😞

          They should be rotating a default server from a pool of reliable servers, so that the growth is spread out instead of concentrated in one place.

          This is what mastodon.social used to do in the old days, they would close m.s and direct people to sign up on a specific other server.

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

            ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

            The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

            Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

            Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

            #FediTips #Fediverse

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            #7

            @FediTips kan se jeg måske skal finde en ny server. Nogen bud på en stabil dansk server med et godt ry? #dkfedi

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

              ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

              The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

              Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

              Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

              #FediTips #Fediverse

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              #8

              @FediTips nah. I'm still salty that just by joining where it seemed natural, I got lumped into the "everybody suspects you" server. It's one of the things about Mastodon that simply doesn't make sense. Plus the migration from what I understand doesn't preserve followers, etc.? If I'm wrong please correct me.

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              • sindum@mastodon.socialS sindum@mastodon.social

                @FediTips kan se jeg måske skal finde en ny server. Nogen bud på en stabil dansk server med et godt ry? #dkfedi

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                #9

                @sindum

                I think https://expressional.social and https://mstdn.dk have good reputations?

                They are listed as complying with the "covenant" for technical reliability and responsible moderation.

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                • ianto_jones@mastodon.socialI ianto_jones@mastodon.social

                  @FediTips nah. I'm still salty that just by joining where it seemed natural, I got lumped into the "everybody suspects you" server. It's one of the things about Mastodon that simply doesn't make sense. Plus the migration from what I understand doesn't preserve followers, etc.? If I'm wrong please correct me.

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                  #10

                  @ianto_jones

                  Ah, apologies, wasn't trying to give that impression at all. If there's any criticism in the post, it's only meant to be towards the people who run the server and not the server's members.

                  With migration, you preserve all your followers and follows. The posts stay behind, but they redirect people to your new account: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @ianto_jones

                    Ah, apologies, wasn't trying to give that impression at all. If there's any criticism in the post, it's only meant to be towards the people who run the server and not the server's members.

                    With migration, you preserve all your followers and follows. The posts stay behind, but they redirect people to your new account: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                    #11

                    @FediTips thank you, that sounds less painful than I expected. Might give it a shot.

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                    • ianto_jones@mastodon.socialI ianto_jones@mastodon.social

                      @FediTips thank you, that sounds less painful than I expected. Might give it a shot.

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                      #12

                      @ianto_jones

                      Feel free to ask if you have any questions 🙂

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                        ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                        The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                        Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                        Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                        #FediTips #Fediverse

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                        #13

                        @FediTips As I try to understand these concerns, why is the ownership side of this still a worry when, back in January, it was announced that Mastodon GmbH would be placed under the control of a non-profit entity?

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                        • northantsgreens@mstdn.socialN northantsgreens@mstdn.social

                          @FediTips in fairness this is what is one of the biggest networking challenges #Mastodon has against #bluesky is that you have to pick a server and people just want to sign up. The #GreenParty could use Mastodon today, but can't be bothered to do so, despite having the resources to do so. As they want to target where everyone is even if said platform goes against green party policies.

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                          #14

                          @NorthantsGreens @FediTips

                          Would it make sense for the party to run their own server which only has official accounts?

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                            ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                            The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                            Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                            Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                            #FediTips #Fediverse

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                            #15

                            @FediTips On the other hand won't shut down for ... whatever reasons.

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                            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                              If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                              ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                              The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                              Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                              Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                              #FediTips #Fediverse

                              jjkrawczyk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #16

                              @FediTips
                              How does the transfer of follows / followers work when one or both accounts require approval for followers? Does the person get a new follow request?

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                                ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                                The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                                Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                                Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                                #FediTips #Fediverse

                                richardgrant@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #17

                                @FediTips My friend, I believe you are wrong about this — though I do not question your sincerity or your noble intentions. We've had this disagreement before, and I am so bummed that you're still launching these unfair and inaccurate attacks.

                                More significantly, I question (again) your using the @fedi.tips account – which many people naturally assume is an official and impartial and 100% solid source — which it *is* mostly, except for this one strange blind spot — for a personal vendetta.

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                                • richardgrant@mastodon.socialR richardgrant@mastodon.social

                                  @FediTips My friend, I believe you are wrong about this — though I do not question your sincerity or your noble intentions. We've had this disagreement before, and I am so bummed that you're still launching these unfair and inaccurate attacks.

                                  More significantly, I question (again) your using the @fedi.tips account – which many people naturally assume is an official and impartial and 100% solid source — which it *is* mostly, except for this one strange blind spot — for a personal vendetta.

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                                  #18

                                  @FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.

                                  And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.

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                                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                    If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                                    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                                    The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                                    Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                                    Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                                    #FediTips #Fediverse

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                                    #19

                                    @FediTips

                                    25%?!! Oh come on. You'd think the folks IN FAVOR OF DECENTRALIZING WOULD DECENTRALIZE.

                                    Or even fork off another one of their own. Or multiples.

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                                    • richardgrant@mastodon.socialR richardgrant@mastodon.social

                                      @FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.

                                      And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.

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                                      #20

                                      @richardgrant

                                      You've done a two-part reply which doesn't address any of the reasons given in the original post?

                                      "And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko."

                                      I think you must be confusing me with someone else? I have never attacked Eugen.

                                      I have criticised some of his decisions, and praised other decisions. I've never made it personal about him.

                                      He has contributed more than any other person to making Mastodon and that's an amazing achievement. But not every decision is good.

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                                      • richardgrant@mastodon.socialR richardgrant@mastodon.social

                                        @FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.

                                        And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.

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                                        #21

                                        @richardgrant

                                        "sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months"

                                        That's just not true, most of the alternative servers I'm recommending have been working reliably for years:

                                        https://fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-founding-year/

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                                        • jjkrawczyk@mastodon.socialJ jjkrawczyk@mastodon.social

                                          @FediTips
                                          How does the transfer of follows / followers work when one or both accounts require approval for followers? Does the person get a new follow request?

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                                          #22

                                          @JJKrawczyk

                                          Followers (people who follow you) is automatic because they already followed you on the old account.

                                          As far as I remember, follows (people you follow) will mean the person gets a new follow request from you if they have follow requests switched on.

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