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  • mynameistillian@plush.cityM mynameistillian@plush.city

    @aral the agencies aren't even trying anymore

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    #16

    @mynameistillian@plush.city @aral@mastodon.ar.al

    if they accept national IDs of EU members i got a free pass for yall

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    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

      Scan your passport to join our social network.

      Don’t worry, it’s European.

      Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

      https://wsocial.news/

      #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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      #17

      @aral

      @lain
      Since I read the info on the verification process, supposedly fully on device, and user name options (real or something else) for now I tend to give it the benefit of doubt. It might even reduce malicious fake accounts.

      aral@mastodon.ar.alA causeofbsod@wetdry.worldC frawst@fedi.fraw.stF 3 Replies Last reply
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      • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

        @aral @Julianoe @lain I'm pretty sure this is the exact reason they want age verification in the first place

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        #18

        @fluffykittycat @aral @lain i'm pretty sure there is not only a single (bad) reason to do it. Several official and private sector organizations have several monetary and power related reasons to depseudonymize the web

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        • eregloch@mastodon.coffeeE eregloch@mastodon.coffee

          @aral

          @lain
          Since I read the info on the verification process, supposedly fully on device, and user name options (real or something else) for now I tend to give it the benefit of doubt. It might even reduce malicious fake accounts.

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          #19

          @EregLoch @lain Excellent, the benefit of the doubt is all they need right now. Thank you for your service.

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          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

            Scan your passport to join our social network.

            Don’t worry, it’s European.

            Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

            https://wsocial.news/

            #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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            #20
            @aral @lain W as in 'Wat?'
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            • markus@toot.orchid-cottage.ukM markus@toot.orchid-cottage.uk
              @aral @lain W as in 'Wat?'
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              #21

              @markus @lain I think it’s short for Wank.

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                Scan your passport to join our social network.

                Don’t worry, it’s European.

                Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                https://wsocial.news/

                #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                #22

                @aral @lain@lain.com The very thing we have to collectively fight against: identity theft and #discrimination in public spaces masquerading as “human verification” and wannabe social networks.

                In designing my own #cloud services I quickly came to a simple yet powerful conclusion: if you model the infrastructure around personal freedom and digital sovereignty you don’t even need ID verification. You cryptographically own your identity, period.

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                • clock@net.miaumuh.chC clock@net.miaumuh.ch

                  @aral @lain
                  "Sweden’s Digital ID System Hacked,Public’s Data Sold on Dark Web"—"sweeping national digital ID system has been hacked"—"public’s sensitive data already being sold"

                  "alarm over the risks of centralized control as governments worldwide push similar schemes"

                  "called BankID.BankID is the single authentication system used by millions of Swedes for banking,taxes,government services,and digital signatures."

                  "leaked material includes source code,passwords,and encryption keys tied to systems supporting BankID logins for the Swedish Tax Agency.BankID is not a niche tool as it serves as the backbone of Sweden’s digital infrastructure.More than 8.6 million people in a country of just over 10 million rely on it for daily life,creating what critics warn is a dangerous single point of failure."

                  "Officials Downplay Incident Despite Serious Exposure"

                  https://www.voicemedia.global/article/sweden-s-digital-id-system-hacked-public-s-data-sold-on-dark-web

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                  #23

                  @clock @aral @lain Personally I'm a big supporter of These kinds of hacks Because they delegitimize the entire system

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                  • kittylyst@mastodon.socialK kittylyst@mastodon.social

                    @aral @lain

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                    #24

                    @kittylyst @aral @lain Correct.

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      Scan your passport to join our social network.

                      Don’t worry, it’s European.

                      Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                      https://wsocial.news/

                      #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                      #25

                      @aral Assuming W is only for EU citizens, how else could they verify your citizenship?
                      (I still would not do this)

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                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                        Scan your passport to join our social network.

                        Don’t worry, it’s European.

                        Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                        https://wsocial.news/

                        #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                        #26

                        @aral @lain Matter of time as this copycat of BlueSky, built on American protocol, will have data leak.

                        Just because something presents itself as "European" doesn't mean it's safe. It's better to stick with fediverse as the network is more trustworthy and built by the people for the people.

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                        • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                          @clock @aral @lain Personally I'm a big supporter of These kinds of hacks Because they delegitimize the entire system

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                          #27

                          @fluffykittycat @aral @lain @fluffykittycat @aral @lain I won't say "Personally I'm a big supporter of These kinds of hacks Because they delegitimize the entire system" because we don't have free speech in the Czech regime and I am afraid they could persecute me for exercising my basic human and constitutional right to freedom of speech, claiming I publicly support crimes.

                          I also feel

                          e x t r e m e l y s t r o n g c o n t e m p t

                          towards the Czech regime when the situation about free speech is like this here.

                          #czechia #freedomofspeech #censorship #oppression #suppression #humanrights #hack #digitalid #regime #czechregime #contempt #persecution #repression

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                          • goog@gabboman.xyzG goog@gabboman.xyz

                            @mynameistillian@plush.city @aral@mastodon.ar.al

                            if they accept national IDs of EU members i got a free pass for yall

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                            #28

                            @aral@mastodon.ar.al @mynameistillian@plush.city

                            to any dumbass reporting this post, a simple google search would have spared you the effort of reporting what's a known meme on the polish side of internet

                            https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamil_Tumulec

                            go care about actual doxxing that happens on your very own cesspool instead of getting mad over a photo of an ID that might as well never really exist

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                            • lillyherself@mastodon.socialL lillyherself@mastodon.social

                              @aral Assuming W is only for EU citizens, how else could they verify your citizenship?
                              (I still would not do this)

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                              #29

                              @LillyHerself @aral Isn't that xenofobic nationalistic discrimination?

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                              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                Scan your passport to join our social network.

                                Don’t worry, it’s European.

                                Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                                https://wsocial.news/

                                #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                                #30

                                @aral @lain

                                US fascism dressed in EU clothing.

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                                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                  Scan your passport to join our social network.

                                  Don’t worry, it’s European.

                                  Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                                  https://wsocial.news/

                                  #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                                  #31

                                  @aral @lain
                                  *Donnie Darko at the therapist meme*
                                  - I launched a new european social network
                                  - New social network, or the modal foundation trying to peddle the same fucking atproto relay again?
                                  - The modal foundation again

                                  https://www.modalfoundation.org/

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                                  • markus@toot.orchid-cottage.ukM markus@toot.orchid-cottage.uk
                                    @aral @lain W as in 'Wat?'
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                                    #32

                                    @markus @lain @aral WEF social

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                                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                      Scan your passport to join our social network.

                                      Don’t worry, it’s European.

                                      Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                                      https://wsocial.news/

                                      #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                                      #33

                                      @aral no need for surveillance if everything gets provided
                                      @lain

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                                      • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @aral @lain they say ID scan is verified on device. If that's true, that could be a good thing.
                                        I've enjoyed using Facebook once, when nobody had a problem posting under their real name, when there was no spam or ads.

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                                        #34

                                        @vonKordke @aral @lain@lain.com "no one had a problem with (thing everyone had a problem with and rightfully called out facebook for doing)"

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                                        • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @aral @lain they say ID scan is verified on device. If that's true, that could be a good thing.
                                          I've enjoyed using Facebook once, when nobody had a problem posting under their real name, when there was no spam or ads.

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                                          #35

                                          @vonKordke @aral @lain a “dox yourself” requirement is never a good thing, fuck off

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