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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

    custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

    (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

    this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

    also this abstract was written with a chatbot

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    #31

    @davidgerard Seems rather normal for this kinda project.

    It's a huge beast of project trying to compete with Windows and MacOS UI's that are long knee deep in this stuff.

    Thankfully there's not a shortage of desktop toys to choose from.

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    • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      @davidgerard @zzt Oh crap. Not KDE now as well? *hovers over Trinity link*

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      #32

      @bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago

      https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?

        because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith

        and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package

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        #33

        @davidgerard never offer faith, where money is involved. Make them say that shit.

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          @bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago

          https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288

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          #34

          @davidgerard @zzt The appropriate cutscene now would seem to be Lt. Gorman in "Aliens" (1986) spouting "Ahhhhh shit." and ordering his marines to fall back and use the incinerators.

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          • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

            @davidgerard "custom compiled desktops for ever user"
            That sounds like some shit suckless would do. I use Plasma because I don't want to deal with that!

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            #35

            @jackemled @davidgerard I use Gentoo, to have the experience of a custom compiled desktop without as much AI slop

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            • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              @davidgerard @zzt The appropriate cutscene now would seem to be Lt. Gorman in "Aliens" (1986) spouting "Ahhhhh shit." and ordering his marines to fall back and use the incinerators.

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              #36

              @bms @zzt

              me: I wonder how TDE's going
              me: oh no

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                @bms @zzt

                me: I wonder how TDE's going
                me: oh no

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                #37

                @bms @zzt i think CDE might be clear

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  @bms @zzt i think CDE might be clear

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                  #38

                  @davidgerard @bms embrace emacs

                  the weirder the better

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                    https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                    fuckin

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                    #39

                    @davidgerard I mean, who wrote this? 🤣

                    Did they blow their tokens before they got to the Description section?

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                      https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                      fuckin

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                      #40

                      @davidgerard *infinite scream *

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                        https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                        fuckin

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                        #41

                        @davidgerard please not @kde too, i'm so fucking tired

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                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                          @davidgerard @bms embrace emacs

                          the weirder the better

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                          #42

                          @zzt @davidgerard @bms stop giving me reasons to learn emacs, i have work to do

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                          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                            @davidgerard @bms embrace emacs

                            the weirder the better

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                            #43

                            @zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                              https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                              fuckin

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                              #44

                              @davidgerard A "sovereign" desktop. Barf.

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                              • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                @zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.

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                                #45

                                @zzt @davidgerard @jwz Come to think of it, when KScope was my go-to IDE for FreeBSD kernel hacking, I picked that habit up from Robert Watson, and that was KDE 3.x era. Is fork-and-de-slop-as-a-service the future of AI-free FLOSS?

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                                • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  @zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.

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                                  #46

                                  @bms @davidgerard @jwz great news! emacs is a vim too

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                                  • mensrea@freeradical.zoneM mensrea@freeradical.zone

                                    @zzt @davidgerard @bms stop giving me reasons to learn emacs, i have work to do

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                                    #47

                                    @mensrea @zzt @davidgerard @bms Yes. Yes you do. And that work is getting your configuration *just exactly right*. Jooooin ussss.

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                                      https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                                      fuckin

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                                      #48

                                      @davidgerard WTF!? #kde

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                                        https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                                        fuckin

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                                        #49

                                        @davidgerard
                                        Maybe I go (went, I'm retired) to the wrong conferences but I've never come across an abstract that gave me the creeps. Until now.

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                                        • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                          @davidgerard "A desktop that loves you back has to know you."

                                          "desktop that loves you back"

                                          ... do they want a relationship with their desktop via a chatbot?

                                          what the fuck

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                                          #50

                                          @lumi @davidgerard all the references and social links are linkedin links lol

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