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  3. #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

#WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

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  • cquest@amicale.netC cquest@amicale.net

    @baalroga @_elena @renchap

    To learn you need to understand.

    They will, but the hard way, and too late.

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    baalroga@piaille.fr
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    #55

    @cquest I think that if they couldn't learn with Musk buying twitter, they won't ever learn

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      @lefteristrip23 feel free to share on Reddit!

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      lefteristrip23@mastodon.social
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      #56

      @_elena share what though?

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      • streetcoder@mastodon.socialS streetcoder@mastodon.social

        @_elena OK, we should send some letters and organise some public "demonstration" to show that we already have a much better alternative in place.

        Otherwise she and the other politicians will never know that the Fediverse is already relevant and is much more democratic and digitally independent than Bluesky/W Social could ever be.

        Or maybe they already know and it's all due to lobby, but than it would be even more important.

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        kichae@wanderingadventure.party
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        #57

        streetcoder
        If you want to do that, pick (or set up) a single instance to push in a region. One of the primary reasons the Fediverse fails to catch on is that no one will promote a specific website. Most people don’t care about the syndication feature and, in fact, find it confusing. And no ome cares about “Mastodon” any more than they’re really hype about Joomla.

        Throw up a Mastodon site. Give it a pleasing front end with identifiable branding, and push the site, not the technology and people will show up and stick around.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

          This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

          My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

          🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

          #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

          tofm2@social.netdynamics.euT This user is from outside of this forum
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          tofm2@social.netdynamics.eu
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          #58
          @netdynadmin @EUCommission @aral @_elena Considering the pressing the accelerator and the brake pedal at the same time, I had that : social.netdynamics.eu/display/…
          RE: social.netdynamics.eu/objects/…
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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

            This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

            My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

            🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

            #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

            kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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            kierkegaanks@beige.party
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            #59

            @aral @_elena @EUCommission authoritarian tendensies be authoritarian

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

              European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

              🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

              I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

              #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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              #60

              @_elena neoliberals gonna neoliberal. not a surprise at all

              oh and she's also a zionist so yeah. utterly horrible person all around

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

                rresoli@mastodon.opencloud.luR This user is from outside of this forum
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                rresoli@mastodon.opencloud.lu
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #61

                @_elena Theater is the perfect term @EUCommission @aral

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                  This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                  My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                  🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                  #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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                  failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #62

                  @_elena @EUCommission @aral

                  I am not a programmer, at all, zero knowledge, but for 20 years, I've been listening to OS evangelicals tell me how important OS is

                  and you know what ?
                  I don't care
                  I really don't

                  and I am, among my entire circle of friends/family/coworkers, the "odd guy" who cares about stuff like this

                  so if I don't care, I would guess that 98% of the population doesn't care

                  so maybe OS evangelicals need a better message ?

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                  • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                    @_elena @EUCommission @aral

                    Of course, because the EU has never had a problem with what the US does domestically in terms of things like surveillance, information control, censorship etc, they just want to be able to do it for themselves.

                    harald_korneliussen@mastodon.partipirate.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    harald_korneliussen@mastodon.partipirate.org
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                    #63

                    @contrasocial @_elena @aral Just read that @EUCommission vice chair and notable Russia hawk Kaja Kallas was on Peter Thiel's invitees to his "Dialog" society.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                      This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                      My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                      🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                      #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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                      pouakai@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #64

                      @_elena @EUCommission @aral
                      Hmm, then I think Mastodon is a better place than that W stuff

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                      • reverend@social.undeadnetwork.deR reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de

                        @_elena @EUCommission @aral The same nonsense we saw with #Mistral. It says on the official Wikipedia page that it’s down to Google, Meta and the usual hedge funds. Then billions are thrown at it; Mistral is utterly incompetent – in other words, rubbish. But everyone made money. I reckon there’s no getting round reading Rosa Luxemburg’s *The Accumulation of Capital*. That’s what it’s always about. Always.

                        harald_korneliussen@mastodon.partipirate.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        harald_korneliussen@mastodon.partipirate.org
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                        #65

                        @reverend @_elena @EUCommission @aral I'm pretty sure many in the Commission don't want Mistral to compete. They expect Trump to go away and things to go back to "normal" and then they want to be in the US admin's good graces.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                          This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                          My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                          🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                          #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

                          captainmalu@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          captainmalu@mastodon.social
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                          #66

                          @_elena @EUCommission @aral
                          "Nein!" "Doch!" "Oh!" 😉
                          #LouisDeFunes

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                          • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                            @_elena @EUCommission @aral

                            I am not a programmer, at all, zero knowledge, but for 20 years, I've been listening to OS evangelicals tell me how important OS is

                            and you know what ?
                            I don't care
                            I really don't

                            and I am, among my entire circle of friends/family/coworkers, the "odd guy" who cares about stuff like this

                            so if I don't care, I would guess that 98% of the population doesn't care

                            so maybe OS evangelicals need a better message ?

                            milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            milagemayvary@mstdn.social
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                            #67

                            @failedLyndonLaRouchite

                            Closed source (black box software) is mainly a tool to the large corpos for wealth extraction.

                            Open sourcing is a way of community resistance against abuse.

                            If Mastodon somehow went closed source you could fork, since the protocol was built in the open you have all the tools needed to keep your own server running even if Mastodon were to dissapear.

                            If they started closed source none of this talk would be applicable, server shuts down & the service just goes bye-bye.

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                            • milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM milagemayvary@mstdn.social

                              @failedLyndonLaRouchite

                              Closed source (black box software) is mainly a tool to the large corpos for wealth extraction.

                              Open sourcing is a way of community resistance against abuse.

                              If Mastodon somehow went closed source you could fork, since the protocol was built in the open you have all the tools needed to keep your own server running even if Mastodon were to dissapear.

                              If they started closed source none of this talk would be applicable, server shuts down & the service just goes bye-bye.

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                              failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                              #68

                              @milagemayvary
                              I repeat
                              it is 2026
                              is there any evidence that anyone actually cares ?

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                                This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                                My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                                🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                                #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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                                hiphopheaven@mastodon.social
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                                #69

                                @_elena @EUCommission @aral europeen instutution being hypocritical like usual

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                                • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                                  @Mabande I think it's more just being clueless and wsocial being very well politically connected so they are able to convince these politicians to do this. It was evident this was their stategy from day one with the announcement at Davos etc. but I wouldn't necessarily have bet on them being this successful with it.

                                  Ultimately this might still not mean that much though.

                                  @Razemix @sanzky @_elena

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                                  hiphopheaven@mastodon.social
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                                  #70

                                  @ikuturso @Mabande @Razemix @sanzky @_elena why would you expect evil people like her to be clueless

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                                  • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                                    @milagemayvary
                                    I repeat
                                    it is 2026
                                    is there any evidence that anyone actually cares ?

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                                    milagemayvary@mstdn.social
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                                    #71

                                    @failedLyndonLaRouchite

                                    You do, you care.

                                    You spent the time writing that original message.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                                      This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                                      My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                                      🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                                      #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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                                      kerplunk@mastodon.scot
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                                      #72

                                      @_elena @EUCommission @aral

                                      EU Commission, what a massive fail,
                                      who was paid for the move to a closed source network??? with very dubious background and board.

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                                      • feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @_elena @EUCommission @aral W Social has all the checkmarks for a scam to collect public funding...

                                        Please use the money to found open source project that actually do work for all europeans (and humanity in general).

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                                        ohir@social.vivaldi.net
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                                        #73

                                        @feyter
                                        > Please use the money to found open source project that actually do work

                                        This is not possible. An open-source project doesn't have the technical capability to pay a 50 percent commission.

                                        Simple as that.

                                        There are billions of reasons why OLAF (the EU’s anti-corruption agency) has been effectively defunded.

                                        @_elena @EUCommission @aral

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                                          This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                                          My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                                          🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                                          #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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                                          crazyeddie@mastodon.social
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                                          #74

                                          @_elena @EUCommission @aral This is a tactic that is getting more and more common. It's especially so in the VC funded, quick growth bullshit going on.

                                          Crypto is a big one When I was researching blockchain a bit I bought a couple sets of Tensor cards. This was Open Source when I got it and they were still peddling themselves as Open Source last I saw after they'd quietly changed all their licenses in all their repositories.

                                          Happens in the services too though. Hashicorp. Bait and switch.

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