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  3. After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @engel @everton137

    yes

    because you are also saying then that you are happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg

    are you really happy with that idea?

    mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #34

    @benroyce @engel @everton137

    From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

    It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

    Am I wrong on this point?

    john@vyrse.socialJ benroyce@mastodon.socialB sfwmson@universeodon.comS 3 Replies Last reply
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    • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

      @everton137
      I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out 😆 (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

      luca@sironi.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #35

      @CarineMissiaen @everton137

      hello Carine,
      at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.

      What you consider less intuitive ?

      If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social

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      • mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM mywoolymastadon@toot.community

        @benroyce @engel @everton137

        From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

        It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

        Am I wrong on this point?

        john@vyrse.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #36

        @MyWoolyMastadon @benroyce @engel @everton137

        I don't think you're wrong: like life, the fediverse gives you back what you put into it.

        Follow nobody, get nothing.
        Spend a little time building you follow lists?
        Value and fun ensue.

        oblomov@sociale.networkO 1 Reply Last reply
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        • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

          After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

          I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

          If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

          https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

          https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

          #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

          sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #37

          @everton137

          I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.

          there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.

          anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.

          collette@mastodon.socialC 1 Reply Last reply
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          • mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM mywoolymastadon@toot.community

            @benroyce @engel @everton137

            From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

            It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

            Am I wrong on this point?

            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #38

            @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

            not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness

            as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience

            so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently

            xinit@mastodon.coffeeX the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT 2 Replies Last reply
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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

              not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness

              as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience

              so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently

              xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
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              #39

              @benroyce
              It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi.

              @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

              benroyce@mastodon.socialB zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ 2 Replies Last reply
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              • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                @benroyce
                It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi.

                @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #40

                @xinit @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                exactly

                the whole topic is a nontopic

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                • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                  After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                  I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                  If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                  https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                  https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                  #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                  growfediverse@dillyofapickle.comG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #41

                  @everton137 I have no faith that there is fair content surfacing in an ecosystem where all the following factors are true:
                  A. Algorithmic feeds
                  B. VC / Advertising based funding
                  C. Platforming and verifying fascists

                  A + B + C = Content Supression. Every time. There's incentive to squelch who fascists dont like.

                  Posting in for profit spaces who accept the money and/or social brand reach of fascists is akin to trying to get the word out by yelling while someone covers your face with a pillow. Yelling in a pillow can be cathardic, but no one else is gonna hear.

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                  • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

                    @everton137

                    I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.

                    there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.

                    anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.

                    collette@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #42

                    @Sassinake “there’s no algorithm” is just hard to believe about bluesky. Maybe theres not Meta’s algorithm, but something else chooses what is fed and when - the ‘discover’ tab when not logged in, for example..

                    sassinake@mastodon.socialS 1 Reply Last reply
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                    • collette@mastodon.socialC collette@mastodon.social

                      @Sassinake “there’s no algorithm” is just hard to believe about bluesky. Maybe theres not Meta’s algorithm, but something else chooses what is fed and when - the ‘discover’ tab when not logged in, for example..

                      sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      sassinake@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #43

                      @collette alright, yes - the discover tab.
                      but it's not mandatory.

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                      • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

                        @CarineMissiaen @everton137 welcome here, you will get the hang of it!
                        Ignore global timeline. Follow some hashtags you like, one popular on is #Caturday

                        edelruth@mastodon.onlineE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #44

                        @shadowwwind @CarineMissiaen @everton137

                        And #silentsunday for your mental health breaks.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @ticho I think it replicates a lot of the toxic ways of Twitter, so popular posts are typically those that induce rage. Accounts that post about US politics have A LOT of interactions

                          @everton137

                          littlepolarbear@freeradical.zoneL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #45

                          @_elena @ticho @everton137
                          That's one reason I left Bsky for fedi. Bsky was nothing but liberal rage instead of the alt right of Twitter. I was getting mad, not value. Fedi has some of that content but far more other discussions that I actually enjoy reading. Happy I made the swap.

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                          • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                            After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                            I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                            If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                            https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                            https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                            #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                            dalekmad@mastodon.ieD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #46

                            @everton137 Bluesky has terrible engagement (learnt the hard way) and an increasing issue with bots.

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                            • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                              After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                              I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                              If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                              https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                              https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                              #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                              mancavgeek@social.teamb.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #47

                              @everton137 I have a very good reason for not not taking this opportunity to leave FB/Xitter/Insta/whatever.
                              I did it 4 years ago, and havent been back since.

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                              • luca@sironi.xyzL luca@sironi.xyz

                                @CarineMissiaen @everton137

                                hello Carine,
                                at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.

                                What you consider less intuitive ?

                                If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social

                                carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #48

                                @luca @everton137

                                I will have to learn it. It took me years to understand the FB tricks. But most people from the Belgian shepherd dog community, I know from FB. And sometimes we met in real and said "oh, is that you?"
                                Probably they have not been criticizing the T-Rump administration and they put more pictures of themwelves (I very seldom do, I don't like my pictures).

                                everton137@social.vivaldi.netE alsopaisleycat@tenforward.socialA 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                  @gabboman may you share an example to have an idea what bomb on BlueSky?

                                  ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #49

                                  @everton137 @gabboman I'll give you an example, my lab discovered a magtape of the UNIX v4 source code from 1973. Did extremely well here, nothing at all over on bluesky.

                                  https://discuss.systems/@ricci/115504720054699983

                                  Which is fine, just a different audience.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                                    not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness

                                    as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience

                                    so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently

                                    the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #50

                                    @benroyce @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                                    It's like saying I want an email service that only my friends can use to only email other people that are my friends.

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                                    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                      After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                      I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                      If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                      https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                      https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                      #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                                      kimlockhartga@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #51

                                      @everton137 I agree with you, but I also wonder if part of it is that people on BlueSky are much more likely than people on Mastodon to be reluctant to ditch their Twitter account entirely (even if they mostly post on another platform).

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                                      • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

                                        @luca @everton137

                                        I will have to learn it. It took me years to understand the FB tricks. But most people from the Belgian shepherd dog community, I know from FB. And sometimes we met in real and said "oh, is that you?"
                                        Probably they have not been criticizing the T-Rump administration and they put more pictures of themwelves (I very seldom do, I don't like my pictures).

                                        everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #52

                                        @CarineMissiaen @luca but you like dogs, like I do, and I often post her photos on my Pixelfed @everton137@pixelfed.social 🙂

                                        By the way, I think you are going great! There are people interacting with you, and you joined a conversation.

                                        Actually, I couldn't expect my post to generate so many replies.

                                        P. S. A link with just the photos of my furry friend on my Pixelfed. I noticed I haven't shared photos of her recently.

                                        https://pixelfed.social/c/690292556025971594

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @CarineMissiaen @ivory @everton137 thanks! in that case Phanpy is phenomenal, as it has cross-platform compatibility. Give it a try (especially the catch up feature)

                                          everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #53

                                          @_elena @CarineMissiaen @ivory I love the catch-up feature! I generally use my mobile, but since I don't always check social media, mainly when I'm at work, I use this feature to catch-up on what I missed. 🙂

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