#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal.
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#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners
@maxschrems What I don't get: The "Do Not Track" signal ist there for 10 or so years? Tracking industry *chose* to ignore it. This was before Cookie Banners were invented. Also Cookie banners would not need to be displayed if DNT is present. Why is that not simply being mandatory?
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#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners
@maxschrems
Now that is what I call funny.What on earth is Noyb thinking about when having those buttons on the bottom of their homepage.
All the big bad guys are listed (X, Meta *2, LinkedIn), but free alternatives like Mastodon missing.
Come on, this is ridiculous.
Even the EU has a Mastodon link nowadays (and no X anymore).
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@maxschrems What I don't get: The "Do Not Track" signal ist there for 10 or so years? Tracking industry *chose* to ignore it. This was before Cookie Banners were invented. Also Cookie banners would not need to be displayed if DNT is present. Why is that not simply being mandatory?
@elosha @maxschrems I read the article (with no previous knowledge of what is going on in those discussions) and it seems to like they are proposing something like this.
How long ago did Mozilla say the will stop sending the DNT Signal? Is this connected to this discussion?
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@maxschrems
Now that is what I call funny.What on earth is Noyb thinking about when having those buttons on the bottom of their homepage.
All the big bad guys are listed (X, Meta *2, LinkedIn), but free alternatives like Mastodon missing.
Come on, this is ridiculous.
Even the EU has a Mastodon link nowadays (and no X anymore).
@anthrazit @maxschrems mastodon is at the bottom of the page tho, maybe not in the share thing
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#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners
@maxschrems sorry but as I have said a gazillion times before: nobody needs the banners unless they want your data. #feilnerism
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@maxschrems
Now that is what I call funny.What on earth is Noyb thinking about when having those buttons on the bottom of their homepage.
All the big bad guys are listed (X, Meta *2, LinkedIn), but free alternatives like Mastodon missing.
Come on, this is ridiculous.
Even the EU has a Mastodon link nowadays (and no X anymore).
@anthrazit Hi Andreas, we have links to all our social media acccounts at the top of our website on every page. The links at the bottom are for directly sharing articles to platforms, messengers or via email. Here, we had problems implemeting Mastodon because it's decentralised. But our devs are already working on it.
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#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners
@maxschrems
> Even though this understandable frustration is mostly caused by misleading dark patterns used by the industry, these banners have become the symbol of what is perceived as excessive EU regulation.It is an excess of EU regulation, come on. Google is obviously being shitty, but it's silly to blame everything about that failed regulation/rule onto the companies
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#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners
@maxschrems That's not surprising at all, without the banners they can't trick people into consenting. What they wanted was to get rid of the banners by no longer requiring consent at all.
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#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners
@maxschrems when it comes to IT, digitization, AI, I have a 100% success rate predicting what the German government will propose, decide, vote.
It is always the opposite of what I consider it to be the best solution. -
@maxschrems when it comes to IT, digitization, AI, I have a 100% success rate predicting what the German government will propose, decide, vote.
It is always the opposite of what I consider it to be the best solution.@Okuna @maxschrems true. And I am angry about it.
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#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners
@maxschrems https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A02002L0058-20091219
Member States shall ensure that the storing of information, or the gaining of access to information already stored, in the terminal equipment of a subscriber or user is only allowed on condition that the subscriber or user concerned has given his or her consent, having been provided with clear and comprehensive information [...] about the purposes of the processing. This shall not prevent any technical storage or access for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network, or as strictly necessary in order for the provider of an information society service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user to provide the service.
Cookie banners wouldn't be needed if websites used them only where strictly necessary.
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