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  3. #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal.

#GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal.

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  • maxschrems@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners

    elosha@chaos.socialE anthrazit@mastodon.socialA mfeilner@mastodon.socialM dif@mathstodon.xyzD hyperlinkyourheart@mastodon.ieH 7 Replies Last reply
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    • maxschrems@mastodon.socialM maxschrems@mastodon.social

      #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners

      elosha@chaos.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @maxschrems What I don't get: The "Do Not Track" signal ist there for 10 or so years? Tracking industry *chose* to ignore it. This was before Cookie Banners were invented. Also Cookie banners would not need to be displayed if DNT is present. Why is that not simply being mandatory?

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      • maxschrems@mastodon.socialM maxschrems@mastodon.social

        #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners

        anthrazit@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        anthrazit@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @maxschrems
        Now that is what I call funny.

        What on earth is Noyb thinking about when having those buttons on the bottom of their homepage.

        All the big bad guys are listed (X, Meta *2, LinkedIn), but free alternatives like Mastodon missing.

        Come on, this is ridiculous.

        Even the EU has a Mastodon link nowadays (and no X anymore).

        #noyb #google #eu #bigtech

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        • elosha@chaos.socialE elosha@chaos.social

          @maxschrems What I don't get: The "Do Not Track" signal ist there for 10 or so years? Tracking industry *chose* to ignore it. This was before Cookie Banners were invented. Also Cookie banners would not need to be displayed if DNT is present. Why is that not simply being mandatory?

          johnnythan@tuebingen.networkJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @elosha @maxschrems I read the article (with no previous knowledge of what is going on in those discussions) and it seems to like they are proposing something like this.

          How long ago did Mozilla say the will stop sending the DNT Signal? Is this connected to this discussion?

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          • anthrazit@mastodon.socialA anthrazit@mastodon.social

            @maxschrems
            Now that is what I call funny.

            What on earth is Noyb thinking about when having those buttons on the bottom of their homepage.

            All the big bad guys are listed (X, Meta *2, LinkedIn), but free alternatives like Mastodon missing.

            Come on, this is ridiculous.

            Even the EU has a Mastodon link nowadays (and no X anymore).

            #noyb #google #eu #bigtech

            iantwenty@floss.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @anthrazit @maxschrems mastodon is at the bottom of the page tho, maybe not in the share thing

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            • maxschrems@mastodon.socialM maxschrems@mastodon.social

              #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners

              mfeilner@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
              mfeilner@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @maxschrems sorry but as I have said a gazillion times before: nobody needs the banners unless they want your data. #feilnerism

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              • anthrazit@mastodon.socialA anthrazit@mastodon.social

                @maxschrems
                Now that is what I call funny.

                What on earth is Noyb thinking about when having those buttons on the bottom of their homepage.

                All the big bad guys are listed (X, Meta *2, LinkedIn), but free alternatives like Mastodon missing.

                Come on, this is ridiculous.

                Even the EU has a Mastodon link nowadays (and no X anymore).

                #noyb #google #eu #bigtech

                noybeu@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @anthrazit Hi Andreas, we have links to all our social media acccounts at the top of our website on every page. The links at the bottom are for directly sharing articles to platforms, messengers or via email. Here, we had problems implemeting Mastodon because it's decentralised. But our devs are already working on it.

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                • maxschrems@mastodon.socialM maxschrems@mastodon.social

                  #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners

                  dif@mathstodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @maxschrems
                  > Even though this understandable frustration is mostly caused by misleading dark patterns used by the industry, these banners have become the symbol of what is perceived as excessive EU regulation.

                  It is an excess of EU regulation, come on. Google is obviously being shitty, but it's silly to blame everything about that failed regulation/rule onto the companies

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                  • maxschrems@mastodon.socialM maxschrems@mastodon.social

                    #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners

                    hyperlinkyourheart@mastodon.ieH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @maxschrems That's not surprising at all, without the banners they can't trick people into consenting. What they wanted was to get rid of the banners by no longer requiring consent at all.

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                    • maxschrems@mastodon.socialM maxschrems@mastodon.social

                      #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners

                      okuna@social.tchncs.deO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @maxschrems when it comes to IT, digitization, AI, I have a 100% success rate predicting what the German government will propose, decide, vote.
                      It is always the opposite of what I consider it to be the best solution.

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                      • okuna@social.tchncs.deO okuna@social.tchncs.de

                        @maxschrems when it comes to IT, digitization, AI, I have a 100% success rate predicting what the German government will propose, decide, vote.
                        It is always the opposite of what I consider it to be the best solution.

                        ar1@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @Okuna @maxschrems true. And I am angry about it.

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                        • maxschrems@mastodon.socialM maxschrems@mastodon.social

                          #GDPR / #Cookies: You CAN NOT make it up: #Google, #Germany and #France are now lobbying to keep (!) the Cookie Banners in the EU, when the European Commission has proposed to replace them with a simple signal. #Lobbying against the vast majority of voters worked. Details: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want-keep-cookie-banners

                          mbirth@social.mbirth.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mbirth@social.mbirth.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @maxschrems https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A02002L0058-20091219

                          Member States shall ensure that the storing of information, or the gaining of access to information already stored, in the terminal equipment of a subscriber or user is only allowed on condition that the subscriber or user concerned has given his or her consent, having been provided with clear and comprehensive information [...] about the purposes of the processing. This shall not prevent any technical storage or access for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network, or as strictly necessary in order for the provider of an information society service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user to provide the service.

                          Cookie banners wouldn't be needed if websites used them only where strictly necessary.

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