Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
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@RiaResists I feel you. Unfortunately we have the same dangers for the next elections in several countries, fired by propaganda for the far-right coming from Putin and Trump at the same time.
@benroyce @tuban_muzuru@NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru
Half of America have been fighting this since day one.
Stupid Americans have contributed to the uprising of fascism around the world.
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@epilonious @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox It was a nice, even good slogan, but the problem is ultimately it only works in civil terms . When we cease to be civil, then destructive force requires counter force. The good slogans can return once civility returns.
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@Huntn00 @tuban_muzuru @benroyce My "nuance" is that it is absolutely NOT SAFE for someone to visit the USA. Whether or not this financially hurts tourist business is, to me, entirely secondary to the more important safety considerations.
If we ever want tourists back, we need to make our country safe for them again, first.
@isaackuo @tuban_muzuru @benroyce I absolutely agree. 40 years of right wing deterioration and general complacency resulted in not just the first, but the second Humpty train wreck. Some of us exist so far out of reality in Selfishville, it’s the equivalent of National Death Wish… “so I can get something more than you”, but die in the process.
But this is humanity more times than not, or so it can seem.
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@benroyce I meant some mainstream media, like #CNN, #NewYorkTimes, #BBC, #Guardian, etc. So far, none of these big news outlets have picked up the story, or have they? But if FIFA has an emergency meeting, I guess they would.
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Are you just trying to be optimistic or do truly believe he will let you have elections again?
He said there would be no voting after the last one, and he's trying to start world war 3 so he can cancel them.
If that doesn't work he'll just destroy the opposition votes.
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@benroyce I meant some mainstream media, like #CNN, #NewYorkTimes, #BBC, #Guardian, etc. So far, none of these big news outlets have picked up the story, or have they? But if FIFA has an emergency meeting, I guess they would.
i guess so
i mean if the story is fake it's fake. and the source i linked to is toast. they've been around since 2006, they're a real outfit. so we'll see if their reputation goes to hell
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care to explain?
i checked out the site before posting
they are a reputable niche site devoted to ticketing news. headquartered in connecticut, founded in 2006
https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/ticketnews
but yes, fakery on social media is a problem in the world
such as your comment
@benroyce it links to https://en.royanews.tv/news/65690/Jordan-goes-through-to-Arab-Cup-semifinals-as-star-forward-suffers-ACL-tear as a source which says "Calls to boycott FIFA World Cup 2026 have intensified, with reports that around 16,800 people cancelled their tickets overnight." without actually naming any source for this claim. The FIFA emergency meeting is also completely unsourced. No one else mentions it aside from royanews which claims it's a Jordan news site.
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@NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru
Half of America have been fighting this since day one.
Stupid Americans have contributed to the uprising of fascism around the world.
They are unreachable & intentionally misinformed.@RiaResists Reality anecdote: Half of my family fled from Hitler already in 1923 (yes, the danger could have been seen then), some later ... to the USA. Some of them fought against the Nazis as US soldiers in Europe.
Their grand-children and later generations are horrible MAGA heads now. To this day, I still cannot comprehend this betrayal of their *own* history (and I've cut the contact).
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@benroyce it links to https://en.royanews.tv/news/65690/Jordan-goes-through-to-Arab-Cup-semifinals-as-star-forward-suffers-ACL-tear as a source which says "Calls to boycott FIFA World Cup 2026 have intensified, with reports that around 16,800 people cancelled their tickets overnight." without actually naming any source for this claim. The FIFA emergency meeting is also completely unsourced. No one else mentions it aside from royanews which claims it's a Jordan news site.
well then if this ticketnews outfit is reporting fake news their reputation is going to be toast
been around for 20 years. i guess they threw it all away?
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Consequences for whom? Sure does make ethics a lot simpler when you can just throw us all in your Hefty Bag.
You'll probably consider this question hostile and without nuance, but I'd like you to genuinely think about it:
How many foreigners need to be harassed and detained by CBP and ICE to support Wisconsin businesses? How many road rage incidents from Border Patrol officers should we tolerate for you? How many "51st state" jokes should we swallow in order to give you money?
Speaking as someone not in the US, I can assure you the decision for us doesn't require a heck of a lot of nuance.
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but the current system doesn't work for them
this person seems deeply confused about some basic facts of what an fptp voting system is, and are stubbornly refusing to learn the reality
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@RiaResists Reality anecdote: Half of my family fled from Hitler already in 1923 (yes, the danger could have been seen then), some later ... to the USA. Some of them fought against the Nazis as US soldiers in Europe.
Their grand-children and later generations are horrible MAGA heads now. To this day, I still cannot comprehend this betrayal of their *own* history (and I've cut the contact).
@NatureMC @RiaResists @tuban_muzuru
some people just want to learn the hard way
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@benroyce @tuban_muzuru Just speaking for Europe: It doesn't matter what is said in social media.
We have warnings by our Foreign ministries how to behave, and we read in our newspapers how innocent tourists were either prevented from entering the United States in the first place, or were repeatedly detained and hidden away in dubious prison camps before our embassies secured their release.
These facts are enough, we don't need social media. Your government does enough to keep people away.@NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru I'm a "native born" American with a US passport. In July I came through the port of entry at DFW. The place was swarming with heavily armed border and ICE agents just spoiling for a fight. I can only assume the situation has gotten much worse since then. If you are any shade of brown, you will be seriously hassled, that was happening months ago. I wouldn't want to chance being sent to a camp or deported for a football match.
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that's assuming usa is already full blown nazi germany
it's bad but it isn't that yet, so you can vote, and can make a difference
this rationale your presenting is saying a vote is useless. so people don't vote. so trump wins
so you're helping trump
do you want to help trump?
i don't think so, but that's what you're doing
so don't do it. don't present this "everything is already full blown fascism" fallacy. it doesn't help
@benroyce It's mostly frustration with Dem leadership being useless. For the record, I vote in every election, including state and local elections which are on odd-numbered years (VA).
But I have absolutely zero faith that the Democratic party, as it is now, will be able to stop Trump, or whomever else the fascists rally around after he's gone.
As for the historical parallels, look up how Germany's liberals sided with the Nazis to stop the socialists from gaining any power. We aren't there yet, but it's starting to rhyme.
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
@benroyce so so good….
FIFA FAFOed indeed 
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@NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru I'm a "native born" American with a US passport. In July I came through the port of entry at DFW. The place was swarming with heavily armed border and ICE agents just spoiling for a fight. I can only assume the situation has gotten much worse since then. If you are any shade of brown, you will be seriously hassled, that was happening months ago. I wouldn't want to chance being sent to a camp or deported for a football match.
@isotope239 It is so horrible. Stay safe! @benroyce @tuban_muzuru
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but the current system doesn't work for them
this person seems deeply confused about some basic facts of what an fptp voting system is, and are stubbornly refusing to learn the reality
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@benroyce It's mostly frustration with Dem leadership being useless. For the record, I vote in every election, including state and local elections which are on odd-numbered years (VA).
But I have absolutely zero faith that the Democratic party, as it is now, will be able to stop Trump, or whomever else the fascists rally around after he's gone.
As for the historical parallels, look up how Germany's liberals sided with the Nazis to stop the socialists from gaining any power. We aren't there yet, but it's starting to rhyme.
the democrats fucking suck
it's just they're just not fascism
some of us want a real alternative
3rd party doesn't work. so i champion taking over the dem party. more aoc s and mamdanis. show up in the primaries and throw out the spineless dems
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and the account we're responding to not only doesn't know that is the only effect of a 3rd party vote in fptp, but also doesn't care
what a world
