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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @admin @Huntn00

    what you just wrote is a lie

    your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

    so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

    again: fact. not opinion

    why would you lie about this

    it's quite obvious what it is

    mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA This user is from outside of this forum
    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA This user is from outside of this forum
    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #160

    @benroyce

    From the way I understand it, ranked choice requires all candidates to get a vote, in order....

    I can't *ONLY* vote for the candidates that I want in office, I *MUST* rank all the candidates in order of preference.

    If my candidate doesn't win, then my "second choice" (which isn't someone I want in office) gets my vote.

    This is not how I wish to vote.

    @Huntn00

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

      #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

      Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

      As an American: don't come here

      Don't do business with the #USA

      Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

      https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

      #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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      james@todon.eu
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #161

      @benroyce ينبغي أن يقتصر الأمر على المكسيك وكندا فقط.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @admin @Huntn00

        what you just wrote is a lie

        your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

        so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

        again: fact. not opinion

        why would you lie about this

        it's quite obvious what it is

        mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

        admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA This user is from outside of this forum
        admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA This user is from outside of this forum
        admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #162

        @benroyce

        Also, that's the last time you're going to call me a liar.

        There is nothing further to be gained from this discussion.

        @Huntn00

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @tuban_muzuru

          i don't think canadians are ceasing to come because i got on social media and said the usa sucks

          i do think canadians are ceasing to come because an orange turd got on social media and threatened to annex them

          the question is why the orange turd can do that

          and the answer is because enough couldn't be bothered to vote, and enough are ignorants who love bigotry, that he is in power

          it's not anything we control anymore

          we had control, and we blew it

          we better vote next time

          naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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          naturemc@mastodon.online
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #163

          @benroyce @tuban_muzuru Just speaking for Europe: It doesn't matter what is said in social media.
          We have warnings by our Foreign ministries how to behave, and we read in our newspapers how innocent tourists were either prevented from entering the United States in the first place, or were repeatedly detained and hidden away in dubious prison camps before our embassies secured their release.
          These facts are enough, we don't need social media. Your government does enough to keep people away.

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          • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

            @Huntn00 @benroyce

            What's your explanation for the alienated Democratic voter - and there are a lot of us.

            huntn00@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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            huntn00@mastodon.world
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #164

            @tuban_muzuru @benroyce It’s my explanation about why foreigners should not be spending $$$ in the TSA. Ok, listen, if you’re alienated, the last thing you want is to be ruled by fascists. Some pragmatism is required, relative good vs bad, move in steps, you won’t find perfect, chose better.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

              #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

              Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

              As an American: don't come here

              Don't do business with the #USA

              Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

              https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

              #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

              ohmu@social.seattle.wa.usO This user is from outside of this forum
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              ohmu@social.seattle.wa.us
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #165

              @benroyce
              That would be just *awful* if the whole World Cup thing fizzled and turned into a normally manageable few weekends here in #Seattle instead of the freaking Defcon 1 situation we've been hearing about for over a year.

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              • J johnrohde@helvede.net

                @benroyce There is also a european wide campaign going to migrate away from US big tech. That one is going to hurt even more.
                So far I've gotten rid of the streaming services, the social media, Microsoft and amazon. I'm currently working on leaving Google but that one is a bit more tricky.

                huntn00@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                huntn00@mastodon.world
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #166

                @johnrohde @benroyce It is the only way it will register on the Bs…
                which should not even exist, as they are a huge part of our problems. 😳

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @admin @Huntn00

                  what you just wrote is a lie

                  your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

                  so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

                  again: fact. not opinion

                  why would you lie about this

                  it's quite obvious what it is

                  mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                  benroyce@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #167

                  @admin @Huntn00

                  and... blocked

                  😂

                  it's like arguing with an antivaxxer

                  they just don't want to accept reality

                  they have their belief. their belief is false. hard, cold false

                  but they won't hear it. their mind is shut

                  willful ignorance

                  this person is actively supporting trump, and has absolutely no clue that is all they are doing. in the reality of the voting system. their intentions may be great. but math doesn't lie

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                    #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                    Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                    As an American: don't come here

                    Don't do business with the #USA

                    Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                    https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                    #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

                    chx@chx.contactC This user is from outside of this forum
                    chx@chx.contactC This user is from outside of this forum
                    chx@chx.contact
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #168

                    @benroyce This is unsourced fake news.

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                    • chx@chx.contactC chx@chx.contact

                      @benroyce This is unsourced fake news.

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                      benroyce@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #169

                      @chx

                      care to explain?

                      i checked out the site before posting

                      they are a reputable niche site devoted to ticketing news. headquartered in connecticut, founded in 2006

                      https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/ticketnews

                      but yes, fakery on social media is a problem in the world

                      such as your comment

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                      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                        @benroyce @tuban_muzuru Just speaking for Europe: It doesn't matter what is said in social media.
                        We have warnings by our Foreign ministries how to behave, and we read in our newspapers how innocent tourists were either prevented from entering the United States in the first place, or were repeatedly detained and hidden away in dubious prison camps before our embassies secured their release.
                        These facts are enough, we don't need social media. Your government does enough to keep people away.

                        riaresists@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                        riaresists@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                        riaresists@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #170

                        @NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru And we all wish we could get away.

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                        • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                          @benroyce

                          From the way I understand it, ranked choice requires all candidates to get a vote, in order....

                          I can't *ONLY* vote for the candidates that I want in office, I *MUST* rank all the candidates in order of preference.

                          If my candidate doesn't win, then my "second choice" (which isn't someone I want in office) gets my vote.

                          This is not how I wish to vote.

                          @Huntn00

                          huntn00@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          huntn00@mastodon.world
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #171

                          @admin @benroyce I’ve already described ranked choice to you. Apparently you don’t want to believe how it works.
                          • Primarily it removes the spoiler effect, and allows you to vote for you really want and not worry about wasting your vote.
                          • it allows you to pick your green or ultra conservative candidate.
                          • but if your first choice fails to win, your second preference, the moderate can still prevail maybe.
                          That’s all I’ll say about it, accept it or not.

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                          • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                            @Huntn00

                            Actually, I do...

                            Ranked Choice means that if the candidate I do like doesn't get enough votes, then the candidates I don't like can "steal" my vote.

                            Now, tell me, why would I want a candidate that I don't want in office (which describes the last 8 elections - or more - in the US for me) to be able to count my vote for them, rather than for the candidate for which I wish to vote?

                            @benroyce

                            huntn00@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            huntn00@mastodon.world
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #172

                            @admin @benroyce You are absolutely incorrect.

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                            • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                              @admin @benroyce I’ve already described ranked choice to you. Apparently you don’t want to believe how it works.
                              • Primarily it removes the spoiler effect, and allows you to vote for you really want and not worry about wasting your vote.
                              • it allows you to pick your green or ultra conservative candidate.
                              • but if your first choice fails to win, your second preference, the moderate can still prevail maybe.
                              That’s all I’ll say about it, accept it or not.

                              benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              benroyce@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #173

                              @Huntn00 @admin

                              prepare to be blocked

                              😂

                              what a doorknob

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @tuban_muzuru

                                i don't think canadians are ceasing to come because i got on social media and said the usa sucks

                                i do think canadians are ceasing to come because an orange turd got on social media and threatened to annex them

                                the question is why the orange turd can do that

                                and the answer is because enough couldn't be bothered to vote, and enough are ignorants who love bigotry, that he is in power

                                it's not anything we control anymore

                                we had control, and we blew it

                                we better vote next time

                                nazani@universeodon.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                nazani@universeodon.com
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #174

                                @benroyce @tuban_muzuru There were a couple of stories about Canadian tourists being detained & mistreated. My guess is they read more than the US public does.

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                                • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                                  @tuban_muzuru @benroyce It’s my explanation about why foreigners should not be spending $$$ in the TSA. Ok, listen, if you’re alienated, the last thing you want is to be ruled by fascists. Some pragmatism is required, relative good vs bad, move in steps, you won’t find perfect, chose better.

                                  isaackuo@spacey.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  isaackuo@spacey.space
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #175

                                  @Huntn00 @tuban_muzuru @benroyce My "nuance" is that it is absolutely NOT SAFE for someone to visit the USA. Whether or not this financially hurts tourist business is, to me, entirely secondary to the more important safety considerations.

                                  If we ever want tourists back, we need to make our country safe for them again, first.

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                                  • riaresists@mastodon.socialR riaresists@mastodon.social

                                    @NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru And we all wish we could get away.

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                                    naturemc@mastodon.online
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #176

                                    @RiaResists I feel you. Unfortunately we have the same dangers for the next elections in several countries, fired by propaganda for the far-right coming from Putin and Trump at the same time.
                                    @benroyce @tuban_muzuru

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                                      #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                                      Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                                      As an American: don't come here

                                      Don't do business with the #USA

                                      Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                                      https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                                      #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

                                      atjack@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      atjack@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #177

                                      @benroyce, do you have links to more article about it?

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @chx

                                        care to explain?

                                        i checked out the site before posting

                                        they are a reputable niche site devoted to ticketing news. headquartered in connecticut, founded in 2006

                                        https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/ticketnews

                                        but yes, fakery on social media is a problem in the world

                                        such as your comment

                                        jotho@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        jotho@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #178

                                        @benroyce @chx
                                        Sounds like wishful thinking:
                                        1 - tickets can't be cancelled
                                        2 - what are 17k vs. more than 100m?

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                                        • atjack@mastodon.socialA atjack@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce, do you have links to more article about it?

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                                          benroyce@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #179

                                          @AtJack

                                          sure

                                          https://www.givemesport.com/thousands-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-usa-report/

                                          atjack@mastodon.socialA 1 Reply Last reply
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