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#Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons.

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

    So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

    Well not strictly, it's only for allies

    And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

    It's called #TrophyLab

    #UkraineWar

    nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @benroyce

    Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.

    No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.

    Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

      So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

      Well not strictly, it's only for allies

      And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

      It's called #TrophyLab

      #UkraineWar

      pa27@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @benroyce That's great!!

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      • nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN nathanmurdock@mastodon.social

        @benroyce

        Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.

        No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.

        Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.

        panicky_patzer@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9

        @NathanMurdock @benroyce Uh, have we forgotten that Russia is the aggressor who can call it quits and go back to not attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked at any point? Nobody's backing them into any corners here. You're giving some real, "But what was Ukraine wearing when it was raped?" energy with this comment.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

          So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

          Well not strictly, it's only for allies

          And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

          It's called #TrophyLab

          #UkraineWar

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          #10

          @benroyce oh that is *spectacular*

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

            So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

            Well not strictly, it's only for allies

            And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

            It's called #TrophyLab

            #UkraineWar

            bweller@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #11

            @benroyce The site

            edit: appears to be limited to defense contractors, not open source

            edit 2: oops, did not read to end of toot

            https://trophylab.mod.gov.ua/en/

            #TrophyLab #Ukraine

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            • panicky_patzer@mastodon.socialP panicky_patzer@mastodon.social

              @NathanMurdock @benroyce Uh, have we forgotten that Russia is the aggressor who can call it quits and go back to not attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked at any point? Nobody's backing them into any corners here. You're giving some real, "But what was Ukraine wearing when it was raped?" energy with this comment.

              benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              benroyce@mastodon.social
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              #12

              @panicky_patzer @NathanMurdock thank you

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              • nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN nathanmurdock@mastodon.social

                @benroyce

                Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.

                No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.

                Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.

                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @NathanMurdock

                how does a people defending themselves from malice bear any sort of responsibility for that malice

                yes indeed russia could be insane enough to nuke

                and?

                it is our job to meekly submit to russia or we are responsible for what russia alone chooses to do? you believe in some sort of insane lie that because we do not submit, that anything after that that *russia* decides to do, is somehow our fault?

                why are you so fucking weak?

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                • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

                  @benroyce The site

                  edit: appears to be limited to defense contractors, not open source

                  edit 2: oops, did not read to end of toot

                  https://trophylab.mod.gov.ua/en/

                  #TrophyLab #Ukraine

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                  #14

                  @bweller oh yes. i said not strictly open source, only allies. which makes perfect sense

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @bweller oh yes. i said not strictly open source, only allies. which makes perfect sense

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                    #15

                    @benroyce oh my mistake, i did not read that 😅

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                    • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

                      @benroyce oh my mistake, i did not read that 😅

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                      #16

                      @bweller well anyone buying russian arms can also learn about the weaknesses. the hard way 😁

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

                        So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

                        Well not strictly, it's only for allies

                        And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

                        It's called #TrophyLab

                        #UkraineWar

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                        #17

                        @benroyce @bweller This is fucking beautiful

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @bweller well anyone buying russian arms can also learn about the weaknesses. the hard way 😁

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                          benroyce@mastodon.social
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                          #18

                          @bweller

                          PS:

                          I hadn't seen the site, thanks for the link. The sign up process is kind of funny. I can see them being inundated with requests from 14 year olds. We would suppose the access request process would be more discreet

                          But then again the real value of the site is in trolling Russia as loudly and publicly as possible. So the requests from teenagers is an acceptable cost, or even completely ignored. I don't think the French Govt for example will have to fill out this form

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                          • feloniouspunk@beige.partyF feloniouspunk@beige.party

                            @benroyce @bweller This is fucking beautiful

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                            #19

                            @FeloniousPunk @bweller purely as a troll, nevermind the valuable info 😂

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @bweller

                              PS:

                              I hadn't seen the site, thanks for the link. The sign up process is kind of funny. I can see them being inundated with requests from 14 year olds. We would suppose the access request process would be more discreet

                              But then again the real value of the site is in trolling Russia as loudly and publicly as possible. So the requests from teenagers is an acceptable cost, or even completely ignored. I don't think the French Govt for example will have to fill out this form

                              rgsharpe@sfba.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              rgsharpe@sfba.social
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                              #20

                              @benroyce @bweller Hell of an extracurricular to put on your NATO application, though.

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                              • rgsharpe@sfba.socialR rgsharpe@sfba.social

                                @benroyce @bweller Hell of an extracurricular to put on your NATO application, though.

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                                #21

                                @Rgsharpe @bweller 😂

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                                • nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN nathanmurdock@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce

                                  Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.

                                  No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.

                                  Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.

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                                  #22

                                  @NathanMurdock @benroyce all Russia has to do is turn around and go home. Live in their own country as recognized by international law (that means leaving Crimea as well). And all of this stops. They are not backed into a corner. They are the ones attacking. And we have nukes, too (nobody will use one).

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                                  • gabriel@mastodon.samfira.comG gabriel@mastodon.samfira.com

                                    @NathanMurdock @benroyce all Russia has to do is turn around and go home. Live in their own country as recognized by international law (that means leaving Crimea as well). And all of this stops. They are not backed into a corner. They are the ones attacking. And we have nukes, too (nobody will use one).

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                                    #23

                                    @gabriel @NathanMurdock

                                    I think it's possible Russia could use a nuke

                                    But the real issue is how we respond to that threat

                                    If we freak out and give into demands that means we reward such behavior. Thus there will be more nuke threats (and more countries making them) thus increasing the chances of nuke use

                                    The only valid response to a nuke threat is assurances that Moscow and St Petersburg will cease to exist if they use a nuke

                                    This response alone delivers the smallest chance of nuke use

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                                      #24

                                      @chaucerburnt

                                      As an American, no

                                      The USA is dead to the free world. Enough fucking morons decided to worship a rapist pedophile, and enough entitled losers thought it was fine to not vote. We need to rebuild your trust and it will take decades

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

                                        So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

                                        Well not strictly, it's only for allies

                                        And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

                                        It's called #TrophyLab

                                        #UkraineWar

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                                        #25

                                        @benroyce the humiliation continues 😂
                                        I hope they disclosed technical information about the donkeys, so that the trolling is full scale.

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                                        • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce the humiliation continues 😂
                                          I hope they disclosed technical information about the donkeys, so that the trolling is full scale.

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                                          #26

                                          @FrancoisPrague donkeys are so fiercely loyal, they deserve far better than conscription in this Kremlin madness

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