#Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons.
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#Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples
So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets
Well not strictly, it's only for allies
And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed
It's called #TrophyLab
@benroyce The site
edit: appears to be limited to defense contractors, not open source
edit 2: oops, did not read to end of toot
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@NathanMurdock @benroyce Uh, have we forgotten that Russia is the aggressor who can call it quits and go back to not attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked at any point? Nobody's backing them into any corners here. You're giving some real, "But what was Ukraine wearing when it was raped?" energy with this comment.
@panicky_patzer @NathanMurdock thank you
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Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.
No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.
Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.
how does a people defending themselves from malice bear any sort of responsibility for that malice
yes indeed russia could be insane enough to nuke
and?
it is our job to meekly submit to russia or we are responsible for what russia alone chooses to do? you believe in some sort of insane lie that because we do not submit, that anything after that that *russia* decides to do, is somehow our fault?
why are you so fucking weak?
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@benroyce The site
edit: appears to be limited to defense contractors, not open source
edit 2: oops, did not read to end of toot
@bweller oh yes. i said not strictly open source, only allies. which makes perfect sense
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@bweller oh yes. i said not strictly open source, only allies. which makes perfect sense
@benroyce oh my mistake, i did not read that
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@benroyce oh my mistake, i did not read that
@bweller well anyone buying russian arms can also learn about the weaknesses. the hard way
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#Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples
So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets
Well not strictly, it's only for allies
And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed
It's called #TrophyLab
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@bweller well anyone buying russian arms can also learn about the weaknesses. the hard way
PS:
I hadn't seen the site, thanks for the link. The sign up process is kind of funny. I can see them being inundated with requests from 14 year olds. We would suppose the access request process would be more discreet
But then again the real value of the site is in trolling Russia as loudly and publicly as possible. So the requests from teenagers is an acceptable cost, or even completely ignored. I don't think the French Govt for example will have to fill out this form
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@FeloniousPunk @bweller purely as a troll, nevermind the valuable info
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PS:
I hadn't seen the site, thanks for the link. The sign up process is kind of funny. I can see them being inundated with requests from 14 year olds. We would suppose the access request process would be more discreet
But then again the real value of the site is in trolling Russia as loudly and publicly as possible. So the requests from teenagers is an acceptable cost, or even completely ignored. I don't think the French Govt for example will have to fill out this form
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Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.
No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.
Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.
@NathanMurdock @benroyce all Russia has to do is turn around and go home. Live in their own country as recognized by international law (that means leaving Crimea as well). And all of this stops. They are not backed into a corner. They are the ones attacking. And we have nukes, too (nobody will use one).
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@NathanMurdock @benroyce all Russia has to do is turn around and go home. Live in their own country as recognized by international law (that means leaving Crimea as well). And all of this stops. They are not backed into a corner. They are the ones attacking. And we have nukes, too (nobody will use one).
I think it's possible Russia could use a nuke
But the real issue is how we respond to that threat
If we freak out and give into demands that means we reward such behavior. Thus there will be more nuke threats (and more countries making them) thus increasing the chances of nuke use
The only valid response to a nuke threat is assurances that Moscow and St Petersburg will cease to exist if they use a nuke
This response alone delivers the smallest chance of nuke use
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As an American, no
The USA is dead to the free world. Enough fucking morons decided to worship a rapist pedophile, and enough entitled losers thought it was fine to not vote. We need to rebuild your trust and it will take decades
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#Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples
So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets
Well not strictly, it's only for allies
And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed
It's called #TrophyLab
@benroyce the humiliation continues
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@benroyce the humiliation continues
I hope they disclosed technical information about the donkeys, so that the trolling is full scale.@FrancoisPrague donkeys are so fiercely loyal, they deserve far better than conscription in this Kremlin madness
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#Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples
So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets
Well not strictly, it's only for allies
And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed
It's called #TrophyLab
@benroyce yeah, that's how #ModernWarfare works.
- Plus it's no big secret that in "The great #TankHarvest of 2022" #Ukraine did get their hands on comolete & intact #T95M2 tanks and I'd vonsider @bnd "criminally incompetent" if tjey didn't bought one for #WTD91 to disassemble and reverse-engineer.
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@NathanMurdock @benroyce Uh, have we forgotten that Russia is the aggressor who can call it quits and go back to not attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked at any point? Nobody's backing them into any corners here. You're giving some real, "But what was Ukraine wearing when it was raped?" energy with this comment.
You are right.
Myself, I heard the voice of Russia Today in that reply. -
I think it's possible Russia could use a nuke
But the real issue is how we respond to that threat
If we freak out and give into demands that means we reward such behavior. Thus there will be more nuke threats (and more countries making them) thus increasing the chances of nuke use
The only valid response to a nuke threat is assurances that Moscow and St Petersburg will cease to exist if they use a nuke
This response alone delivers the smallest chance of nuke use
@benroyce @gabriel @NathanMurdock
I would like to add, that Putin and his Allies should cease to exist in that case, too. He does mit care for a few hundreds of thousands of lives. -
@benroyce @gabriel @NathanMurdock
I would like to add, that Putin and his Allies should cease to exist in that case, too. He does mit care for a few hundreds of thousands of lives.@DerJoshDer @gabriel @NathanMurdock
Good point. You could almost say that if Russia threatens to nuke anyone, a promise to manhunt and kill Putin and his associates with all available military capacity, if they use a nuke, is probably a more effective deterrent than a threat to nuke back
