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  3. Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research.

Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research.

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  • dnavinci@genomic.socialD dnavinci@genomic.social

    @mrundkvist
    Ahahahah, Kuopio is home to me!
    The kalakukko grows on you!

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    #32

    @dnavinci @mrundkvist

    {random american searches...}

    kalakukko

    rye bread with fish filling

    huh

    sounds like it would be quite hardy and wholesome, excellent fuel for working outdoors in the cold

    the taste is what i wonder about

    someday i'll try it

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @dnavinci @mrundkvist

      {random american searches...}

      kalakukko

      rye bread with fish filling

      huh

      sounds like it would be quite hardy and wholesome, excellent fuel for working outdoors in the cold

      the taste is what i wonder about

      someday i'll try it

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      #33

      @benroyce
      There are two kinds, vendace and salmon. Definitely go with the vendace.
      Also they have little mini ones in the market hall which are better for a first taste
      @mrundkvist

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      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

        @mrundkvist @raymaccarthy the way we define historic people's by their pottery like this (see also the funnel beaker people). I wonder, are we the IKEA people?

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        #34

        @quixoticgeek @mrundkvist @raymaccarthy
        I think we're the plastic people

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        • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

          Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research. Northern Europe was overrun by plague-spreading steppe nomads less than 5000 years ago, causing an almost complete population replacement.

          It’s a 1492 event. Everybody knows that us Northern Europeans aren’t the original inhabitants of North America. But we aren’t even the original inhabitants of Northern Europe.

          #archaeology #dna #migration

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          #35

          @mrundkvist I've always had this feeling of "home" whenever I see a photo of Mongolia...

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          • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

            Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research. Northern Europe was overrun by plague-spreading steppe nomads less than 5000 years ago, causing an almost complete population replacement.

            It’s a 1492 event. Everybody knows that us Northern Europeans aren’t the original inhabitants of North America. But we aren’t even the original inhabitants of Northern Europe.

            #archaeology #dna #migration

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            #36

            @mrundkvist

            all human history is this

            waves of this or that people, moving into new lands, replacing or mingling. little trickles or inundations

            but there's always remnants, going back to the original wave: neanderthal DNA persists in us

            so it goes with every other former population

            neat tidbit:

            in the philippines there are the original aeta. they live in the mountains, while the coastlines are malay

            in madagascar, the original malay live in the mountains and the bantu dominate the coasts

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            • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

              @mrundkvist I knew about a lot of migrations everywhere but I didn't know that there was such an early and desastrous plague wave.
              Does it mean that the newcomers were more resistant against the plague?

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              #37

              @NatureMC
              The hypothesis is that the plague originated in Central Asia and spread to Europe and that the Western Steppe Herders were slightly resistant to the plague. The plague either killed off so many Europeans that the WSH could move in or spread to Europe because of the migrating WSH. Or maybe both.
              @mrundkvist

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              • dnavinci@genomic.socialD dnavinci@genomic.social

                @benroyce
                There are two kinds, vendace and salmon. Definitely go with the vendace.
                Also they have little mini ones in the market hall which are better for a first taste
                @mrundkvist

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                #38

                @dnavinci @mrundkvist

                {stares at his mcdonalds hamburger}

                this isn't fair now i want to eat that instead

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @dnavinci @mrundkvist

                  {stares at his mcdonalds hamburger}

                  this isn't fair now i want to eat that instead

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                  #39

                  @benroyce
                  Oh yes. First stop at hessburger and try the rye-burger. Caramelized rye is a natural pairing for grilled beef!
                  @mrundkvist

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                  • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                    Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research. Northern Europe was overrun by plague-spreading steppe nomads less than 5000 years ago, causing an almost complete population replacement.

                    It’s a 1492 event. Everybody knows that us Northern Europeans aren’t the original inhabitants of North America. But we aren’t even the original inhabitants of Northern Europe.

                    #archaeology #dna #migration

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                    #40

                    @mrundkvist

                    Those of us with multiple strains of american indigenous and old tribal EU/UK genetics must be preserved. 😂

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                    • dnavinci@genomic.socialD dnavinci@genomic.social

                      @benroyce
                      Oh yes. First stop at hessburger and try the rye-burger. Caramelized rye is a natural pairing for grilled beef!
                      @mrundkvist

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                      #41

                      @dnavinci @mrundkvist

                      rule #1 for an american (or any foreigner) learning nordic food culture:

                      rye

                      rye bread

                      rye everything!

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @dnavinci @mrundkvist

                        rule #1 for an american (or any foreigner) learning nordic food culture:

                        rye

                        rye bread

                        rye everything!

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                        #42

                        @benroyce
                        Yeah, cooking skill is linearly associated to what you can do with rye.
                        Fancy restaurants like MustaLammas base their entire menu around local forage and interesting things can you do with rye, caraway, and cardamom
                        @mrundkvist

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                        • dnavinci@genomic.socialD dnavinci@genomic.social

                          @mrundkvist
                          Ahahahah, Kuopio is home to me!
                          The kalakukko grows on you!

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                          #43

                          @dnavinci
                          💪 💪 💪

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                          • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                            Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research. Northern Europe was overrun by plague-spreading steppe nomads less than 5000 years ago, causing an almost complete population replacement.

                            It’s a 1492 event. Everybody knows that us Northern Europeans aren’t the original inhabitants of North America. But we aren’t even the original inhabitants of Northern Europe.

                            #archaeology #dna #migration

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                            #44

                            @mrundkvist
                            *Coughs* in Neandertal

                            https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12862-7

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                            • dnavinci@genomic.socialD dnavinci@genomic.social

                              @mrundkvist
                              Ahahahah, Kuopio is home to me!
                              The kalakukko grows on you!

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                              #45

                              @dnavinci
                              I was confused to find a Wine Festival in full sway when I arrived. 😄

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                              • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                                @dnavinci
                                I was confused to find a Wine Festival in full sway when I arrived. 😄

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                                #46

                                @mrundkvist
                                The first time I visited was also during that same festival!
                                Definitely gives you some local color!

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                                • dnavinci@genomic.socialD dnavinci@genomic.social

                                  @benroyce
                                  Yeah, cooking skill is linearly associated to what you can do with rye.
                                  Fancy restaurants like MustaLammas base their entire menu around local forage and interesting things can you do with rye, caraway, and cardamom
                                  @mrundkvist

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                                  #47

                                  @benroyce
                                  Og, and rye flatbread pizza regularly wins international competitions
                                  @mrundkvist

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                                  • dnavinci@genomic.socialD dnavinci@genomic.social

                                    @benroyce
                                    Yeah, cooking skill is linearly associated to what you can do with rye.
                                    Fancy restaurants like MustaLammas base their entire menu around local forage and interesting things can you do with rye, caraway, and cardamom
                                    @mrundkvist

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                                    #48

                                    @dnavinci @mrundkvist

                                    complex healthy carbs. but then the butter! 😂 (no judgment, i use too much butter myself, and my bread isn't nearly as complex)

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                                    • dnavinci@genomic.socialD dnavinci@genomic.social

                                      @mrundkvist
                                      For any statement, it becomes untrue at a certain level of detail.
                                      In Finland this model breaks down somewhere near Kuusamo, which... Makes sense if you've ever tried to travel there.
                                      https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomalaiset

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                                      #49

                                      @dnavinci @mrundkvist the (mostly in the male line) ancestors of the Finns arrived several centuries later and wiped out the descendant of the Corded Ware people who had wiped out the Neolithic farmers who had wiped out the Mesolithic hunter gatherers so that makes, three replacement events?

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                                      • _hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org_ _hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org

                                        @dnavinci @mrundkvist the (mostly in the male line) ancestors of the Finns arrived several centuries later and wiped out the descendant of the Corded Ware people who had wiped out the Neolithic farmers who had wiped out the Mesolithic hunter gatherers so that makes, three replacement events?

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                                        #50

                                        @_hic_haec_hoc
                                        Not many Neolithic farmers in Finland. But the hunter-gatherers who lived there before the Corded Ware didn't practise a kind of burial that left much to sample for DNA.

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                                        • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                                          @MargaretD

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Steppe_Herders

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                                          #51

                                          @mrundkvist AKA Yamnani ?

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