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“PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

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  • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
    What would be even more anti-capitalist would be to boycott privative culture en masse and let Big Media go bankrupt. But so many social interactions and cultural references have been steadily wrapped by the market around the entertainment industry, that fully boycotting them is practically considered a social suicide nowadays.
    falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #19

    @csolisr but the opposite is true. anyone who participates in killing bad faith companies this way I recognise as an elite human being whose voice I will always listen to over others for LIFE.

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    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

      “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

      don’t be a cop.

      If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

      If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

      SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

      falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      @blogdiva well said. this is a good approach to punish exploitative publishers for existing.

      but for self-published independent creators, paying them is something we should all be proud to do.

      "piracy" was never a relevant word. Teach didn't go around making copies of recovered resources. piracy is just stealing.

      but you cannot steal from an exploiter because an exploiter has no right to exist. so yeah, help yourself to everything any exploitative publisher has. it is free for all.

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      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

        “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

        don’t be a cop.

        If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

        If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

        SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

        bltpizza@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        bltpizza@mastodon.social
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        #21

        @blogdiva I called into a WNYC talkshow when Napster was being taken to court and made a similar argument about piracy/sharing not being a crime. They thought I was crazy. Admittedly my argument sounded better in my head until I opened my mouth, live on air. 😂

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        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

          “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

          don’t be a cop.

          If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

          If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

          SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

          bhasic@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #22

          @blogdiva Copy or cp command, now with AI. It reads all the bits of a file or program and creates another one just like the one it read.

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          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

            “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

            don’t be a cop.

            If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

            If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

            SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

            konstruct@woof.techK This user is from outside of this forum
            konstruct@woof.techK This user is from outside of this forum
            konstruct@woof.tech
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #23

            @blogdiva what about larping as a matey Yarr... Sailing the seven seas with me eyepatch...

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            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

              “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

              don’t be a cop.

              If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

              If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

              SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

              milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
              milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
              milagemayvary@mstdn.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #24

              @blogdiva

              Well said

              https://mstdn.social/@milagemayvary/116847822961520874

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              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                don’t be a cop.

                If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

                c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
                c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
                c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #25

                @blogdiva “be gay, do pro-social activities regardless of the framing of the existing hierarchies” doesn’t roll off the tongue as well

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                • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

                  @blogdiva Seriously. How dare creators expect to be paid for their work?

                  blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #26

                  @farbel so parasite like Jeff Bezos is a creator now?

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                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                    @farbel so parasite like Jeff Bezos is a creator now?

                    farbel@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    farbel@mas.to
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                    #27

                    @blogdiva All the fucking authors who publish there are.

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                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                      “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                      don’t be a cop.

                      If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                      If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                      SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

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                      closeted_unionist@mastodon.social
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                      #28

                      @blogdiva I believe that knowledge should be free and open. At the same time, I also believe that authors and creators should be compensated for their work.

                      I pirate not because of moral high ground, but because everything is so gosh darn expensive now.

                      Which is why I find it crazy that that billion dollar companies ~~pirate knowledge~~ train their models and sell their services for profit

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                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                        “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                        don’t be a cop.

                        If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                        If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                        SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

                        maxtimot@meow.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                        maxtimot@meow.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                        maxtimot@meow.social
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                        #29

                        @blogdiva that's true, but also if I wanted to demonize sharing, I wouldn't give it a super badass name like "pirating" so that's capitalism's fault to make us look cool.

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                        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                          “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                          don’t be a cop.

                          If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                          If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                          SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

                          pezmico@mastodon.nzP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          pezmico@mastodon.nz
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                          #30

                          @blogdiva i wholeheartedly agree with you, but also I've always wanted to be a pirate and SHARING is probably my best chance to get anywhere close to that. 🏴‍☠️ 🦜

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                          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                            “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                            don’t be a cop.

                            If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                            If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                            SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

                            etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloudE This user is from outside of this forum
                            etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloudE This user is from outside of this forum
                            etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloud
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                            #31

                            @blogdiva@mastodon.social this is funny and cute but I’m ngl it’s probably the weakest argument for pirating I’ve seen lmao.

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                            • etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloudE etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                              @blogdiva@mastodon.social this is funny and cute but I’m ngl it’s probably the weakest argument for pirating I’ve seen lmao.

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                              #32

                              @blogdiva@mastodon.social the moment you make a statement like “if buying isn’t ownership…” you are implying that there is a world where piracy could be wrong or immoral. digital assets can be freely duplicated therefore they can’t be stolen, don’t give any concessions

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                              • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

                                @blogdiva All the fucking authors who publish there are.

                                blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #33

                                @farbel i’d rather pay them directly than give wonky Luthor a cut.

                                am not against making money. am against having to get a pittance so that a fucking fascist piece of shit can have another yatch to traffic children.

                                seriously, we don't need fucking capitalists make money out of our fucking labor, but it is much, much harder nowadays after the fucking bailouts.

                                techbros killed p2p because they are the new bankster middlemen. so either we reinvent p2p or guillotine them.

                                it’s come to that.

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                                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                  “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                                  don’t be a cop.

                                  If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                                  If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                                  SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

                                  elgringomexicano@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  elgringomexicano@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #34

                                  @blogdiva I'm going to leave this related link here for no particular reason, because I find the topic interesting and I think others might, too.

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread/

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                                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                    “PIRATING” IS A CAPITALIST FRAME

                                    don’t be a cop.

                                    If buying isn't ownership then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING isn't stealing

                                    If buying doesn't create ownership, then p̶i̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ SHARING doesn't destroy it.

                                    SHARING is anticapitalist and antifa because sharing is caring.

                                    villares@ciberlandia.ptV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    villares@ciberlandia.pt
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #35

                                    @blogdiva LONG LiVE THE SHARING PARTY!

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                                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                      @farbel i’d rather pay them directly than give wonky Luthor a cut.

                                      am not against making money. am against having to get a pittance so that a fucking fascist piece of shit can have another yatch to traffic children.

                                      seriously, we don't need fucking capitalists make money out of our fucking labor, but it is much, much harder nowadays after the fucking bailouts.

                                      techbros killed p2p because they are the new bankster middlemen. so either we reinvent p2p or guillotine them.

                                      it’s come to that.

                                      farbel@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      farbel@mas.to
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #36

                                      @blogdiva How many authors have you paid directly recently?

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                                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                        @farbel i’d rather pay them directly than give wonky Luthor a cut.

                                        am not against making money. am against having to get a pittance so that a fucking fascist piece of shit can have another yatch to traffic children.

                                        seriously, we don't need fucking capitalists make money out of our fucking labor, but it is much, much harder nowadays after the fucking bailouts.

                                        techbros killed p2p because they are the new bankster middlemen. so either we reinvent p2p or guillotine them.

                                        it’s come to that.

                                        farbel@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        farbel@mas.to
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                                        #37

                                        @blogdiva By the way, Amazon now lets authors remove DRM from their books. I have done so, so if you buy mine, you can share it with anyone you like. Also, the "pittance" I get from Amazon is a hell of a lot more than I would get from a typical publisher.

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                                        • etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloudE etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                          @blogdiva@mastodon.social the moment you make a statement like “if buying isn’t ownership…” you are implying that there is a world where piracy could be wrong or immoral. digital assets can be freely duplicated therefore they can’t be stolen, don’t give any concessions

                                          epic_null@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          epic_null@infosec.exchange
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #38

                                          @etsyy @blogdiva I don't know that I'd call it the weakest.

                                          Your argument focuses on the ethics implied by the argument. While there's a discussion to be had about the ethics of copying digital goods, "If Buying isn't ownership" isn't an ethics argument. It's a contractual one - "If you don't hold up your end of the argument, we don't need to hold up ours".

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