Own goal of the century:
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@randahl what a turnaround. I just read Macklemore’s statement which was very well put and which is a great example of critique with leaving the door open for change.
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@lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world
so we talk about it and we oppose it
we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions
we do both
and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics
except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars
@benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
And let's recall: Zionism never had a plan that was not genocide.
Building an ethnostate where other people live == genocide.
How was this smoothed over for 70 years?
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@lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world
so we talk about it and we oppose it
we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions
we do both
and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics
except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars
@benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
the problem being, there _are_ a lot of manipulative liars in this space. one does have to be super clear when talking about this topic, becuase there really are antisemites who will seize on Israel's actions as an excuse/justification/reinforcement for their own bigotry.
what a hot mess, but (back to the original topic) a spectacular own goal, I hope Ed Sheeran will take the time to consider his situation with clear eyes.
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Own goal of the century:
British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Result:
American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.
Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.
Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.
Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.
The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.
@randahl thanks for explaining why my timeline suddenly was negative to Sheeran..
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@randahl
He says the promoter kicked the guy out. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3vgyn49y4l7o -
@randahl To be honest: I do not know any of this people.
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Own goal of the century:
British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Result:
American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.
Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.
Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.
Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.
The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.
@randahl A lot of spin is incoming, just remember it's to avoid consequences, not because of some genuine change of heart. When he thought he could get away with it, he didn't care.
When people reveal who they really are, believe them.
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@jannem @randahl I'd be surprised if new acts and a new backing band aren't already on planes. They just need a good drummer, and soloists who can learn their parts - everything else is likely already on a click track. Any pros they hire will learn the rest in a week.
Sheeran's website still has tickets on sale for this weekend. They might cancel one city, but they'll have a show next week - there's too much money at stake to not hire replacements.
@grumble209 @jannem @randahl So what new acts and new backing band will want to step into that clusterfuck right now? They will be the ones supporting genocide.
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@jannem @randahl I'd be surprised if new acts and a new backing band aren't already on planes. They just need a good drummer, and soloists who can learn their parts - everything else is likely already on a click track. Any pros they hire will learn the rest in a week.
Sheeran's website still has tickets on sale for this weekend. They might cancel one city, but they'll have a show next week - there's too much money at stake to not hire replacements.
@grumble209 @jannem @randahl I hear they’re planning a new tour in Sudan, they just need the sponsor Lundin Oil to ethnically cleanse the area first.
/s
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Own goal of the century:
British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Result:
American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.
Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.
Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.
Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.
The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.
@randahl Maybe Pink should step up and open since she caused all this.
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@grumble209 @jannem @randahl So what new acts and new backing band will want to step into that clusterfuck right now? They will be the ones supporting genocide.
@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
No, I was thinking the *current* musicians back down at the threat of lawsuits, continue the tour, with all the enthusiasm, musical verve, stage presence, and strict adherence to every letter of their contract of a galley slave. -
@lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world
so we talk about it and we oppose it
we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions
we do both
and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics
except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars
@benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague #antisemitism and the Palestinian #genocide are not unrelated. #antisemitism is being fuelled by Israel's actions.
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@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
No, I was thinking the *current* musicians back down at the threat of lawsuits, continue the tour, with all the enthusiasm, musical verve, stage presence, and strict adherence to every letter of their contract of a galley slave.@jannem @grumble209 @randahl Yeah, I know, I did read your reply. I was replying to the person that replied to you about new acts and a new backing group.
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@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
No, I was thinking the *current* musicians back down at the threat of lawsuits, continue the tour, with all the enthusiasm, musical verve, stage presence, and strict adherence to every letter of their contract of a galley slave.@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
" I *am* playing drums to the beat. The contract doesn't specify it must be to the *same* beat as the bassist.""The lead guitar score says "d minor solo" here . This is a d minor. A triad. One per bar. No, the contract says nothing about showing emotion. Or moving."
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@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
" I *am* playing drums to the beat. The contract doesn't specify it must be to the *same* beat as the bassist.""The lead guitar score says "d minor solo" here . This is a d minor. A triad. One per bar. No, the contract says nothing about showing emotion. Or moving."
@jannem @grumble209 @randahl So much potential for so much mayhem!
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@randahl The real winners here are the lawyers for the tour promoter.
They are going to generate many, many billable hours by suing everyone who breaks their tour contracts.
Everyone else will lose money here - the promoter, the musicians, the road crews, the fans. But the lawyers will have a great Christmas.
@grumble209 @randahl
Surely all the other bands need to do to relieved from their contracts is one mention of 'Gaza Genocide'? They'll be booted from the tour just like Macklemore. -
#Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years
also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions
and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/
@benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.
She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.
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#Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years
also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions
and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/
@benroyce @randahl @FrancoisPrague I don't know anything about Ed Sheeran that I haven't learned this week. He can just go fuck himself. Pink, on the other hand, is someone I've known and respected for years. Her involvement in, and statements about this, really disappoint me.
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@benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.
She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.
