Own goal of the century:
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@grumble209 @jannem @randahl So what new acts and new backing band will want to step into that clusterfuck right now? They will be the ones supporting genocide.
@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
No, I was thinking the *current* musicians back down at the threat of lawsuits, continue the tour, with all the enthusiasm, musical verve, stage presence, and strict adherence to every letter of their contract of a galley slave. -
@lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world
so we talk about it and we oppose it
we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions
we do both
and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics
except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars
@benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague #antisemitism and the Palestinian #genocide are not unrelated. #antisemitism is being fuelled by Israel's actions.
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@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
No, I was thinking the *current* musicians back down at the threat of lawsuits, continue the tour, with all the enthusiasm, musical verve, stage presence, and strict adherence to every letter of their contract of a galley slave.@jannem @grumble209 @randahl Yeah, I know, I did read your reply. I was replying to the person that replied to you about new acts and a new backing group.
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@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
No, I was thinking the *current* musicians back down at the threat of lawsuits, continue the tour, with all the enthusiasm, musical verve, stage presence, and strict adherence to every letter of their contract of a galley slave.@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
" I *am* playing drums to the beat. The contract doesn't specify it must be to the *same* beat as the bassist.""The lead guitar score says "d minor solo" here . This is a d minor. A triad. One per bar. No, the contract says nothing about showing emotion. Or moving."
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@HollieK72 @grumble209 @randahl
" I *am* playing drums to the beat. The contract doesn't specify it must be to the *same* beat as the bassist.""The lead guitar score says "d minor solo" here . This is a d minor. A triad. One per bar. No, the contract says nothing about showing emotion. Or moving."
@jannem @grumble209 @randahl So much potential for so much mayhem!
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@randahl The real winners here are the lawyers for the tour promoter.
They are going to generate many, many billable hours by suing everyone who breaks their tour contracts.
Everyone else will lose money here - the promoter, the musicians, the road crews, the fans. But the lawyers will have a great Christmas.
@grumble209 @randahl
Surely all the other bands need to do to relieved from their contracts is one mention of 'Gaza Genocide'? They'll be booted from the tour just like Macklemore. -
#Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years
also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions
and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/
@benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.
She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.
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#Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years
also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions
and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/
@benroyce @randahl @FrancoisPrague I don't know anything about Ed Sheeran that I haven't learned this week. He can just go fuck himself. Pink, on the other hand, is someone I've known and respected for years. Her involvement in, and statements about this, really disappoint me.
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@benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.
She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.
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@randahl well that went well for him didn't it? Sorry I can't boycott him as I've always thought his music was insipid detritus.
@nomenloony @randahl Yes, I too have studiously boycotted him from Day 1.
Except when his music is playing on a radio that I have no control over in a space I have to be in.
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@benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.
She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.
the sickest thing:
when israel defenders call criticizing israel attacking jews
and antisemitic bigots say the problem of what israel is doing is jews
they're both misdirecting the same way. away from israel and towards jews
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@jannem @grumble209 @randahl Yeah, I know, I did read your reply. I was replying to the person that replied to you about new acts and a new backing group.
@HollieK72 @jannem @grumble209 @randahl I'm just replying after reading your reply to the person that replied to the person who wrote this and then replied and yeah. Whew!
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@HollieK72 @jannem @grumble209 @randahl I'm just replying after reading your reply to the person that replied to the person who wrote this and then replied and yeah. Whew!
@ManWhoTalksToHisHand @jannem @grumble209 @randahl Lol, and this is without putting the broken replies bit in!
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@randahl @paulk Sheeran’s statement on this was awful - a total cop out, doubling down on his desire to remain apolitical. Just terrible all around, considering we are dealing with a genocide.
Please look up statements by the bands that dropped out - they restored my faith in humanity.
Fuck Sheeran forever and ever (and I never say the F word, but damn)
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Own goal of the century:
British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Result:
American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.
Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.
Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.
Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.
The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.
@randahl I didn't know they could do that. There's not a contract?
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@benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
They're /creating/ antisemitism where before there wasn't any. Not everybody out there in meatspace is as sophisticated a thinker as Mastodonians.
Before: "we're nice to Jews 'cuz of the Holocaust." Now: "Jews did their own holocaust. Fuck 'em."
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@grumble209 @jannem @randahl So what new acts and new backing band will want to step into that clusterfuck right now? They will be the ones supporting genocide.
@HollieK72 @grumble209 @jannem @randahl people who are desperate for money so they can eat and pay the roof over their heads
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@benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
They're /creating/ antisemitism where before there wasn't any. Not everybody out there in meatspace is as sophisticated a thinker as Mastodonians.
Before: "we're nice to Jews 'cuz of the Holocaust." Now: "Jews did their own holocaust. Fuck 'em."
@Uair @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
Kudos for "meatspace".
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@benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
And let's recall: Zionism never had a plan that was not genocide.
Building an ethnostate where other people live == genocide.
How was this smoothed over for 70 years?
@androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague when people say that Israel has a right to exist, what they're actually saying and maybe not realizing is that Israel only exists as an Apartheid state, and could not exist without it. Supporting Israel means supporting this genocide and that's how we need to call that out. Not that they support Israel, or the Jewish faith and ethnicity, but genocide and only genocide.
