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Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

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  • paddyduke@mastodon.socialP paddyduke@mastodon.social

    @PavelASamsonov *an Electron wrapper around the advertising and data-mineable login you can avoid in the browser.

    mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #18

    @paddyduke @PavelASamsonov "Wouldn't it be better if we were tracking you more aggressively?"

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    • billysmith@social.coopB billysmith@social.coop

      @PavelASamsonov

      It's not that they hate YOU personally.

      They just hate the extra rights that you have from using a browser, that they can remove by you using their app...

      bearbob@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #19

      @BillySmith @PavelASamsonov Which is kind of wild, considering what they can get already out of you using one of the common browsers…

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      • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

        Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

        And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

        kos@stolat.townK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #20

        @PavelASamsonov and then the app asks you to accept cookies

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        • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

          Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

          And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

          ertain@mast.linuxgamecast.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #21

          You get it, @PavelASamsonov

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          • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

            Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

            And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

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            #22

            @PavelASamsonov I use an app to order from a restaurant because they will not keep me signed in.

            It’s a web view.

            That view asks to track me, in their own app. It’s asks to use my location. In their app. It tells me to sign in. *I AM*.

            And yet somehow that’s still the better experience than just their site.

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            • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

              Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

              And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

              ranvel@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #23

              @PavelASamsonov this is my favorite post from the past week 😂😂😂

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              • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

                aho@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #24

                @PavelASamsonov it's just annoying that you need a single site browser for everything nowadays, even my bank app is like this 😿

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                • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                  Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                  And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

                  ryan@social.codefor.nlR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #25

                  @PavelASamsonov yeah but now with the app they're able to suck way more PII from you.

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                  • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                    Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                    And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

                    nev@status.nevillepark.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #26

                    @PavelASamsonov idea: sell a web browser as "what if you could read news stories, order delivery, shop, watch online streams, etc., ALL IN ONE APP?"

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                    • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                      Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                      And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

                      darkghosthunter@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #27

                      @PavelASamsonov death of the Internet vibes.

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                      • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                        Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                        And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

                        paczekzkimchi@wspanialy.euP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #28

                        @PavelASamsonov but the metrics from the app

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                        • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                          @PavelASamsonov On some web sites Chrome has an "Install ..." button. I have no idea what this means, even after reading the help. It says something about a "web app" but I've no idea what that means either. What does installing a web site mean, and why might I want to do it?

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                          #29

                          @TimWardCam @PavelASamsonov

                          It will add the site to your home screen. When you open it from the home screen it will have no URL bar. It can be styled a bit more.

                          A good portion of user will say "it is an app".

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                          • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                            Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                            And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

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                            #30

                            @PavelASamsonov Ehhh New York Times sucks anyways >_> They have done some corrupt shit like disparaging headlines against democratic candidates and that kind of thing. I think they ran something against Zohran Mamdani??!?! smh who even does that Zohran is like the best of us

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                            • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                              Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                              And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

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                              #31

                              @PavelASamsonov

                              They're selling the smart phone CONCEPT.

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                              • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                                Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                                And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

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                                #32

                                @PavelASamsonov Well, they are not lying, it's really better... for them, as it makes it easier for them to get your data.

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                                • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                                  Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                                  And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

                                  hvanleeuwen@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #33

                                  @PavelASamsonov i avoid apps

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                                  • pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialP pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social

                                    Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead"

                                    And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

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                                    #34

                                    @PavelASamsonov

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                                    • vt52@ioc.exchangeV vt52@ioc.exchange

                                      @mwichary @PavelASamsonov this is intentional on the part of Apple: PWAs compete with apps that ship in their app store, and they can't get a cut of that sweet sweet app revenue if folks can just install the PWA for free...

                                      and since they don't allow non-safari browser engines, they can keep their stranglehold over platform behavior and make sure that even if PWAs are like... legally required to be a first-class construct, Apple can continue to nerf them so they're not able to be as good.

                                      see also: https://open-web-advocacy.org/

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                                      #35

                                      @vt52 Thanks. I am aware of all these reasons, but didn’t know about the effort you linked to, and I see quite a few friends in there! Appreciate it.

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                                      • ghost_letters@fosstodon.orgG ghost_letters@fosstodon.org

                                        @TimWardCam @PavelASamsonov

                                        It will add the site to your home screen. When you open it from the home screen it will have no URL bar. It can be styled a bit more.

                                        A good portion of user will say "it is an app".

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                                        #36

                                        @ghost_letters @TimWardCam @PavelASamsonov
                                        That is a "Progressive Web App" (aka "PWA"). Yes a fair amount of discussion about them elsewhere in the discussion.
                                        Basically they can do many of the things that native apps can do (background running, offline functionality, notification etc.) and can look like a normal app. Difference is that they are actually running in the browser so you don't have the potential privacy and security issues of a native app.

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