Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays.
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@theleftistlawyer the difference - Kirk used every possibility to pull off his shirt. Picard, Sisco, and Pike are less narcissistic
@vgoller @theleftistlawyer I think this is a very distant reading of Kirk. He is far less the "punch first, ask questions later, bang everything that moves" caricature that he is made out to be.
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@Alliat @theleftistlawyer There are some parts that have not aged well, but on the whole, the message holds up.
@dresstokilt @theleftistlawyer Very true. It’s just those shocking things that really stuck. I also liked the fan made continuation but that was of course much more tame in those matters.
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Well at least there's not an episode of TNG where they unfreeze a capitalist from centuries ago and he's a complete blowhard who's unable to adjust to a society not based around capital and profit-seeking.
@contrasocial @theleftistlawyer
They really should have made him ambassador to the Ferrengi.
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@theleftistlawyer Also we don't eat animals and we don't do capitalism.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
I will take “What is Return of the Archons” for $300 dollars Jerry.
Or I will take “ what little girls are made of” for $300
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
Not to mention American TV's first interracial kiss.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer Kirk always puts himself and his crew at risk in order to achieve peaceful outcomes. He'd rather die than start a war!
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@contrasocial @theleftistlawyer
They really should have made him ambassador to the Ferrengi.
@pseudonym @contrasocial @theleftistlawyer I think they did that in one of the novels
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The *pilot* episode had a female first officer.
Original Series:
Black female communications *officer*.
Navigator and helmsman, clearly from "cold war enemy" countries, working right there in front of the captain.
@JeffGrigg @theleftistlawyer Hikaru Sulu was not from a Cold War enemy country.
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@theleftistlawyer Anyone who thinks that DS9 wasn't gloriously woke has never watched a single episode and can be mocked relentlessly for being a fake fanboy (it's always a boy).
@dresstokilt @theleftistlawyer *Quark makes money, and I turn the TV off before his comeuppance arc* finally, a show that tells it like it is.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer Wait, is this about Star Trek, or Dungeons and Dragons?
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@JeffGrigg @theleftistlawyer Hikaru Sulu was not from a Cold War enemy country.
Yes. You are correct.
Sulu was from a WWII enemy country. (The actor had been a child in a US concentration camp.)
Pevel Chekov, Russian, the only cold war adversary.
But I think it does "send a message" that "current and former enemies" were now front-and-center in our future drive to explore the universe.
Without a word, it said that our petty local national conflicts had been settled.
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RWTB: Oh but surely Picard's Enterprise wasn't like this.
Average TNG Episode: Will Riker is falling for a trans person from an agender society. Meanwhile, the genius Black disabled chief engineer and his autism-coded android best friend just saved another planet through science education.
@theleftistlawyer Enterprise: chief engineer gets pregnant after he plays in the squishy mind sharing gel.
Same guy to doctor in a different situation: "I think your wife is hitting on me." "OH! YOU LUCKY MAN!!! You gonna say yes? Say yes, you gotta say yes! You will NOT regret it!"
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@cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer I like Star Trek, but my Orville knowledge is more complete (it's also a mere three seasons heh). This reminds me of one of my favorite moments in the series, and I've been thinking about it a lot lately. "You get all this by becoming better people."
I hope we can become better people.
@theorangetheme @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer
Been debating on watching more video. A rewatch of The Orville is sounding good. Such a good show, and I've only seen it once. Thanks for the reminder, and the pics/text for encouragement :^)
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@theorangetheme @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer
Been debating on watching more video. A rewatch of The Orville is sounding good. Such a good show, and I've only seen it once. Thanks for the reminder, and the pics/text for encouragement :^)
@lxskllr @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer It's one of the only bits of sci-fi media I've seen in a long time that makes me feel any sort of hope for humanity. Definitely worth a rewatch (or two). :3
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
all they remember is that 'White Man lead, and others follow', and that's pretty much all that counts.
Same with Star Wars: take away the White Male Lead
️ , and now it's Armageddon. Those WASP panicked and cried while they cut the heads of figurines and burned them:
'What about MY fee-fees?'
(They didn't like Kylo Ren showing them for what they are, either)
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@theleftistlawyer That is confusing as Star Trek has always been a very progressive show. As in decades ahead of its time culturally. Probably more than the average SciFi show.
If conservatives want a relatively conservative show, I think Babylon 5 might be in their orbit.
I was going to recommend Firefly / Serenity, but it’s too libertarian & diverse for their taste!
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
every episode Kirk had a new love interest🫦
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer It could be worse.
At least you're not spending the proceeds of your book sales to take away the rights of trans people around the world.
In which case you'd be right at home in certain states like South Dakota. Good luck being a leftist lawyer in a red state.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
