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  3. Imagine trusting your privacy with a company who favors speed over integrity.

Imagine trusting your privacy with a company who favors speed over integrity.

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  • markwyner@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
    markwyner@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    RE: https://mas.to/@markwyner/116184563372403595

    Imagine trusting your privacy with a company who favors speed over integrity.

    A Proton employee cautioned against releasing new code that wasn’t properly tested. Andy Yen responded to all Proton employees:

    “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure. Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster. Only losers think like that. Stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

    Some of us keep warning folks to avoid Proton. Unfortunately, others, like trusted source @privacyguides, ignore the red flags and recommend it anyway. If you use Proton, you’re at risk.

    https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning

    #Proton #Privacy #InfoSec #AndyYen #AI

    hyde@lazybear.socialH luckychronic@mastodon.socialL wolf480pl@mstdn.ioW forestfern@mastodon.socialF 4 Replies Last reply
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    • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

      RE: https://mas.to/@markwyner/116184563372403595

      Imagine trusting your privacy with a company who favors speed over integrity.

      A Proton employee cautioned against releasing new code that wasn’t properly tested. Andy Yen responded to all Proton employees:

      “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure. Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster. Only losers think like that. Stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

      Some of us keep warning folks to avoid Proton. Unfortunately, others, like trusted source @privacyguides, ignore the red flags and recommend it anyway. If you use Proton, you’re at risk.

      https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning

      #Proton #Privacy #InfoSec #AndyYen #AI

      hyde@lazybear.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
      hyde@lazybear.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
      hyde@lazybear.social
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      #2

      @markwyner @privacyguides

      Cc: @sebsauvage

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      • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

        RE: https://mas.to/@markwyner/116184563372403595

        Imagine trusting your privacy with a company who favors speed over integrity.

        A Proton employee cautioned against releasing new code that wasn’t properly tested. Andy Yen responded to all Proton employees:

        “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure. Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster. Only losers think like that. Stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

        Some of us keep warning folks to avoid Proton. Unfortunately, others, like trusted source @privacyguides, ignore the red flags and recommend it anyway. If you use Proton, you’re at risk.

        https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning

        #Proton #Privacy #InfoSec #AndyYen #AI

        luckychronic@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @markwyner @privacyguides could you reccomend me alternativas? i already have 1 account in tuta and i would like something encrypted and free. Thanks!!!

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        • luckychronic@mastodon.socialL luckychronic@mastodon.social

          @markwyner @privacyguides could you reccomend me alternativas? i already have 1 account in tuta and i would like something encrypted and free. Thanks!!!

          markwyner@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
          markwyner@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @luckychronic right! I should have mentioned alternatives. Thanks for the prompt.

          Here are suggestions I stand behind. But each person has to conduct their own research/audit.

          https://tuta.com

          https://mailbox.org (a friend has used it for a long time and swears by it)

          https://www.fastmail.com

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          • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

            RE: https://mas.to/@markwyner/116184563372403595

            Imagine trusting your privacy with a company who favors speed over integrity.

            A Proton employee cautioned against releasing new code that wasn’t properly tested. Andy Yen responded to all Proton employees:

            “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure. Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster. Only losers think like that. Stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

            Some of us keep warning folks to avoid Proton. Unfortunately, others, like trusted source @privacyguides, ignore the red flags and recommend it anyway. If you use Proton, you’re at risk.

            https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning

            #Proton #Privacy #InfoSec #AndyYen #AI

            wolf480pl@mstdn.ioW This user is from outside of this forum
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            wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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            #5

            @markwyner
            > "Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure"

            idk Proton should ask Boeing how well that went

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            • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

              RE: https://mas.to/@markwyner/116184563372403595

              Imagine trusting your privacy with a company who favors speed over integrity.

              A Proton employee cautioned against releasing new code that wasn’t properly tested. Andy Yen responded to all Proton employees:

              “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure. Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster. Only losers think like that. Stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

              Some of us keep warning folks to avoid Proton. Unfortunately, others, like trusted source @privacyguides, ignore the red flags and recommend it anyway. If you use Proton, you’re at risk.

              https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning

              #Proton #Privacy #InfoSec #AndyYen #AI

              forestfern@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
              forestfern@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @markwyner Thank you, Mark, for sharing all this information about Proton. I'm a Proton user but have always felt a little iffy about it because its design & layout completely mimic Google to the point that I think it's Google, but overseas, to evade US laws. Afterall, why isn't Google suing for design, layout infringement? I now only use it for junk mail.

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              • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

                @luckychronic right! I should have mentioned alternatives. Thanks for the prompt.

                Here are suggestions I stand behind. But each person has to conduct their own research/audit.

                https://tuta.com

                https://mailbox.org (a friend has used it for a long time and swears by it)

                https://www.fastmail.com

                nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @markwyner @luckychronic I'm in the same boat as Lucky here. I need something free and Tuta seems to be the only good free option. Just like them, I already have one account in Tuta, but I need one other. As far as I can tell both of those others aren't actually free. They just have a free trial which means they cost money after 30 days or whatever. Also, Fastmail keeps backups of all your data in the US even if you select an EU server so that kind of defeats the purpose on that.

                Tuta is absolutely great, but IMO everyone needs to have two accounts, not one.

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