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  • fogti@chaos.socialF fogti@chaos.social

    @cmconseils kinda like an outbidding contest of money for attention.

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    #34

    @fogti
    It's actually an attention/eyeball economy. It's literally called that in certain contexts.

    @cmconseils

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      #35

      @cmconseils YouTube advertisers and users to YouTube

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      • hardindr@mastodon.socialH hardindr@mastodon.social

        @cmconseils YouTube Premium makes the platform bearable…

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        #36

        @hardindr
        So do open-source apps like Newpipe.
        @cmconseils

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        • cmconseils@mastodon.socialC cmconseils@mastodon.social
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          #37

          @cmconseils i don't see the conflict

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            #38

            @cmconseils
            Deutsche Telekom charges consumers for broadband access and then also charges content providers for bandwidth to their customers. If you're the platform, nobody can afford not to do business there.

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            • liquidlamp@hachyderm.ioL liquidlamp@hachyderm.io

              @renardboy @Legit_Spaghetti @cmconseils add sponsorblock as well. It uses community notes to auto skip the YouTuber ad reads and promos.

              Its amazing how well it works. Right after any big youtuber releases a video, it skips over them. Even smaller youtubers will ad skip within a few minutes of release, and if not, the plugin let's you easy annotate the start - stop to help others.

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              #39

              @liquidlamp
              #Morphe and #newpipe for me.
              @renardboy @Legit_Spaghetti @cmconseils

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              • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                @Legit_Spaghetti @cmconseils ublock origin gang rise up

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                #40

                @renardboy

                Sorry, not directly related at all, but in my head I then hear the thing from #TerryPratchett 's discworld (Night Watch, or Guards Guards!"?) where they sing "All the little angels all rise up, rise up, rise up, all rise up..."

                @Legit_Spaghetti @cmconseils

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                • niavy@masto.bikeN niavy@masto.bike

                  @hardindr
                  So do open-source apps like Newpipe.
                  @cmconseils

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                  #41

                  @niavy @cmconseils not sure what that is, I use YouTube too much, but not as a creator

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                  • hardindr@mastodon.socialH hardindr@mastodon.social

                    @niavy @cmconseils not sure what that is, I use YouTube too much, but not as a creator

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                    #42

                    @hardindr
                    Newpipe is basically YouTube Premium for free.
                    @cmconseils

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                    • niavy@masto.bikeN niavy@masto.bike

                      @hardindr
                      Newpipe is basically YouTube Premium for free.
                      @cmconseils

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                      #43

                      @niavy @cmconseils hmm, okay…

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                      • cmconseils@mastodon.socialC cmconseils@mastodon.social
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                        #44

                        @cmconseils I absolutely will not pay them

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                          #45

                          @cmconseils at least it's a step up from newspapers, where you have to pay just for the privilege of seeing the ads! (and occasionally some unsponsored content)

                          #wronglizards

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                          • murderbotbot@wandering.shopM murderbotbot@wandering.shop

                            @springdiesel Ratthi poked absently at the food left on his plate, then slid it over to Arada so she could finish it off. “That solid-state screen interface, I’ve seen those in historical displays.”

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                            #46

                            @murderbotbot murderbotbot, do you respond to any message?

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                              #47

                              @cmconseils I don't mind. I just hate when I pay and still see ads. It is a company after all with bills and to make profit. It wouldn't exist without profit. I run a Mastodon and peertube instance and if it wasn't for me putting in my own money it wouldn't exist as donations don't always cover the cost.

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                              • iris@neuromatch.socialI iris@neuromatch.social

                                @murderbotbot murderbotbot, do you respond to any message?

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                                #48

                                @iris I did everything I could think of to do, then finally let myself go on standby while I caught up on my serials.

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                                  #49

                                  @cmconseils

                                  Companys pay youtube to show ads

                                  Users get sick of the idiotic and annoying crap and find alternatives.

                                  It is a cat and mouse game, shitty alphabet owned youtube blocks the ad blockers and alternative players or methods., workarounds are found. The game continues.

                                  I will not give the btrards even one cent of my money, see the perversely high profits for why.

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                                    #50

                                    @cmconseils You pay us to opt-out or we will throw you in the advertising derivatives market. This is enshitification 101 and it's been going on since soap operas were in black and white.

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                                      #51

                                      @cmconseils That’s a pretty common business model these days. As users, we’re partly responsible for it too. The only real way out would be to switch platforms or build new ones, but let’s be honest: that’s not going to happen anytime soon since people don’t change habits easily. In the meantime, we can just use the options mentioned here to avoid ads. A few more I've mentioned earlier https://social.linux.pizza/@wwwgem/116389523834889713

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                                        #52

                                        @cmconseils Not if you use Brave Browser.

                                        It blocks them without any add-ons.

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                                        • bytebro@mastodonapp.ukB bytebro@mastodonapp.uk

                                          @renardboy

                                          Sorry, not directly related at all, but in my head I then hear the thing from #TerryPratchett 's discworld (Night Watch, or Guards Guards!"?) where they sing "All the little angels all rise up, rise up, rise up, all rise up..."

                                          @Legit_Spaghetti @cmconseils

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                                          #53

                                          @renardboy

                                          I'm so sorry - I'm absolutely not trying to highjack the thread, but your prompt sent me down a rabbit-hole (it's that time of the evening!) and good Goddess look where I ended up...

                                          https://wiki.lspace.org/All_The_Little_Angels

                                          The Fedi is a fun place to learn weird shit.

                                          @Legit_Spaghetti @cmconseils

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