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"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"

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  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

    @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

    Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.

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    #67

    @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
    Have schools stopped teaching anything regarding propaganda in modern history. Is it only my (ancient) generation that recognises media manipulation by capitalism?

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    • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

      @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
      Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
      Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship 🤔

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      #68

      @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

      No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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      • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

        @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
        I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
        I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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        #69

        @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

        If you don't do politics, politics will still seek to do you. The Epstein class is rapists, not people looking for consensual ANYTHING after all.

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        • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

          @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

          There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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          #70

          @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

            the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

            the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

            etc

            people forget:

            1. the historical evolution of a country or party
            2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
            3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

            then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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            #71

            @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

            Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

            This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

            All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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            • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

              @benroyce

              Very much a "white savior will come to rescue us" flavor in there.
              American voters need to wake up and realize that it is THEIR job to find and pick good candidates, not some party leadership or deity.

              @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech

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              #72

              @screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
              And he’s failed both times!
              What does that say about WTP?

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              • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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                #73

                @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                Read Turnbuls "The Forest People"!

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                  the answer to

                  "i don't do politics"

                  is simple:

                  "but politics does you

                  so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                  #74

                  @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                  "Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you"

                  (Pericles of Athens, BC 430 )

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                  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                    @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                    No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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                    #75

                    @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                    Denmark & Finland vie for ‘happiest country’ title. I’d say their governments have nailed it.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                      every state has different rules about who can #vote in the #primary

                      you got closed, partially closed, partially open, open to unaffiliated voters, open, multi-party, etc

                      it's fucking complicated, and part of our problem with voting in general in the #USA because people are never educated about it and never figure it out

                      it still doesn't mean they are free of blame IF THEY DON'T FUCKING VOTE IN THE #PRIMARIES

                      educate yourself AND VOTE

                      https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/state-primary-election-types

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                      #76

                      @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                      • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                        #77

                        @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                        you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                        in party or across party lines

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                          you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                          in party or across party lines

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                          #78

                          @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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                          • catdragon@mastodon.worldC catdragon@mastodon.world

                            @Sfwmson @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech my current response to those people is “thank you for the current SCOTUS. I am certain that as a cishet white male ( because for fucks sake they are cishet white males 99.9% of the time ) it will be quite some time before they impact you. Bravo.”

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                            #79

                            @CatDragon

                            That's a perrfect response

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                            • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                              @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                              Denmark & Finland vie for ‘happiest country’ title. I’d say their governments have nailed it.

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                              #80

                              @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                              (My ride is in garage till the ice is gone).

                              What pisses me off is we could have had what they have. The basic economics was in place, people were beginning to do well, even business was making money. We fought for civil right race & sex, education expansion. The right has been fighting ever since FDR to gain total control & bring back the depression. They finally did it.

                              Peace

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                              • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

                                Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

                                This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

                                All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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                                #81

                                @the_wub @benroyce @the5thColumnist @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth Mexico's full name is Los Estados Unidos de Mexico

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                  "Because you know you will survive"

                                  most of those cosplaying revolutionary will not survive a real revolution

                                  furthermore, revolutions are not bastions of ideological purity. whoever wins could be worse. even if by some miracle something better does win, the new regime will still deal with impotent purists whining "but i want perfect, waah"

                                  toxic idealists who bizarrely defer to revolution are excuse making for their own uselessness

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                                  #82

                                  @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                  They also seem to think it'll be just a jaunty weekend of bloodshed and then we all just roll over to whoever is on top after that. No, an actual revolution will take a decade of unspeakable horrors unfolding in their time. The rest of your life will be terrible. Your children's lives might be normal eventually. Only the grandchildren stand any chance of living better once that line is crossed.

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                                  • skotchygut@social.seattle.wa.usS skotchygut@social.seattle.wa.us

                                    @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                    They also seem to think it'll be just a jaunty weekend of bloodshed and then we all just roll over to whoever is on top after that. No, an actual revolution will take a decade of unspeakable horrors unfolding in their time. The rest of your life will be terrible. Your children's lives might be normal eventually. Only the grandchildren stand any chance of living better once that line is crossed.

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                                    #83

                                    @skotchygut @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                    revolution cosplayers suffer from main character syndrome and think it will be like a movie

                                    and they believe, hilariously, that the factions will be ideologically rigorous

                                    none of this excuses our current suffering

                                    it means they should be *effective* about fixing it rather than retreating into a cringe fantasy life (hint: VOTE)

                                    and revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa but we're far from general famine

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @skotchygut @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                      revolution cosplayers suffer from main character syndrome and think it will be like a movie

                                      and they believe, hilariously, that the factions will be ideologically rigorous

                                      none of this excuses our current suffering

                                      it means they should be *effective* about fixing it rather than retreating into a cringe fantasy life (hint: VOTE)

                                      and revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa but we're far from general famine

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                                      #84

                                      @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                      unfortunately, retreating into a cringe fantasy life is, if not the American dream, then at least the American past time.

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                                      • scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS scottmiller42@mstdn.social

                                        @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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                                        #85

                                        @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                        • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                                          @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                          #86

                                          @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                          in states where you can vote in primaries outside your party, i encourage such sabotage and vandalism. but this is a sideshow. the main game should be declare your party and contribute

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